Judge Unseats Official Who Trespassed at Capitol on Jan. 6

www.nytimes.com ^ | September 6, 2022 | Luke Broadwater and Alan Feuer

[digger48]

How about the federal officials who encouraged the BLM and Aunty riots

And paid bails

[fuzzylogic]

One would think this only has teeth if the person has been CONVICTED of such? No? Then this is BS.

[Repeal 16-17]

Decision reversed in 3... 2... 1...

[philman_36]

This is what happens when you take an Amendment meant for that time and that place (status quo post bellum) out of that framework and advance it into the future. It doesn't work.

The same thing goes for the 14th Amendment crowd with anchor babies. In that time, in that place, under those circumstances, not twisting things and bringing it forward as applicable in current time when it isn't.

[philman_36]

My laymen's reading of this tells me a County official is not included on the named positions.

Can you explain in layman's terms how an Amendment concerning long dead men applies to a living man?

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

For trespassing.

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

For trespassing.

[Michael.SF.]

The way the Amendment is written, it is not time relevant. It was written to exclude all Confederates, but is left open ended. There is no reference to the Civil War, but only to "Insurrections".

Thus the argument being made is that the Jan 6 was in fact an "insurrection"

Democrats chose that word, knowing that they may be able to use it in the context of the 14A. This judge bought their argument.

[unread]

"Couy Griffin, a commissioner in New Mexico's Otero County and the founder of Cowboys for Trump, who was convicted earlier this year of trespassing..

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but he was NOT found guilty or even charged for insurrection... Guilty of Trespassing was the verdict.. He will, no doubt, win the appeal..

[Michael.SF.]

Unfortunately, though your logic is sound, that is not what the 14th says. Specifically:

shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same,

The real question would be: was it an insurrection?

The DemonRats are driving that point home so as to use the 14th. It is a disgrace what they are doing.

[philman_36]

You are far beyond my help. Have a good day.

[unread]

This judge convicted Griffin of insurrection without even putting him on trial.

I wonder, what are the chances of a lawsuit for defamation of character after such a thing..(?)

[Seeing More Clearly Now]

What a disgusting, dimwitted decision. Almost everyone who made the trip to D.C. was a stellar citizen - the best of the best. Tens of thousands more of us would have been there, too, as is our constitutional right, had there not been the COVID scare keeping people at and close to home. With the passage of time, history will identify those who came to D.C. that day to stand up and be counted for what was right. The judges who are twisting reality into a pretzel will be counted as historic criminals, traitors, and utter fools.

[Michael.SF.]

Sorry, but I guess I can’t come down to a level low enough to match your level of thinking. Have a good one.

[Organic Panic]

Will Illon Omar and Crazy Ocasio be for idden from office for their insurrection against SCOTUS demanding?

[libertylover]

He plead guilty to felony trespass.

Insurrection is quite a stretch from trespassing. I read where it could be considered felony trespassing if he planned to commit a crime while trespassing. I doubt he did.

[fuzzylogic]

Ok...but I don’t believe the intent there was for a judge to “just decide something” was an insurrection. Unless there’s a legal ruling it can’t be arbitrary by opinion.

[nicollo]

The judge is right about an insurrection on Jan 6, only he’s targeting the wrong people.

[lepton]

Bump