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The robot painting arms fatally attacked the artist. Could happen.


1 posted on 09/04/2022 12:52:32 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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2 posted on 09/04/2022 12:57:30 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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“An A.I.-Generated Picture Won an Art Prize. Artists Aren’t Happy.”

Lrn2Cod


3 posted on 09/04/2022 1:41:23 AM PDT by Zack Attack
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5 posted on 09/04/2022 3:38:08 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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Asimov lives. Will the Centennial Man have to give up his immortality to become a citizen?


6 posted on 09/04/2022 3:47:24 AM PDT by ToxicMasculinity ("Free country"? Good morning, Rip.)
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‘Artists aren’t happy’ - OK, duly noted. Now quit yer gritchin’ and do something about it. The most successful folks are the do-ers, the makers, the git-off-yer-a$$-and-do-something folks.

How about going forward you set up a separate category for computer created entries ... now, was that hard?


7 posted on 09/04/2022 3:57:13 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Slo-Joe and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To those who say he cheated: Is “art” defined by the merits of the result or by the effort and skill of the artist? If a very skilled and talented artist creates an ugly lump of clay is that more “art” than a stunningly beautiful sculpture carved by a computer? Also, I am sure that human artists would object on the basis that an AI routine is just copying techniques used by human artists and generating images that mimic those styles, but then again human artists have always done the same as well.

I’m not proposing an answer to these questions, just raising them.

8 posted on 09/04/2022 4:10:00 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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Midjourney, which uses a complex process known as “diffusion” to turn text into custom images. Users type a series of words in a message to Midjourney; the bot spits back an image seconds later.

True artists are not threatened at all. Many will in fact embrace this, just as they embraced photography to aid in their painting. And many embraced the photo medium itself as its own art form.

I can see artists using this tech to try out ideas, and then moving things around - editing, and perhaps repainting the results using their own signature techniques. How would that be any different than working from sketches or little clay dioramas?

AI can also produce very convincing music in the style of Mozart, it isn't Mozart. My own music attempts to sound like a synthesis of Debussy, Gershwin, Keith Emerson and late romanticism. If AI would only produce that sound for me, I'd be all set as I'm lazy and just want to hear the music in my head instead of working it out, but since it isn't I have to sit down and go through the painstaking process. Even one minute of music is an awful lot of black dots on a page.

11 posted on 09/04/2022 5:19:50 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Users type a series of words in a message to Midjourney; the bot spits back an image seconds later.

So, the real talent is with those who wrote the bot's code, not the person who typed in a series of words.

15 posted on 09/04/2022 6:20:06 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, BY FAR, is that almost all of big media is agenda-driven, not-truth driven.)
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“22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings,” substituting shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “ Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

Any of this look familiar?


16 posted on 09/04/2022 6:23:41 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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Well, fake women win female competitions, too.

Guess it’s all relative these days…


19 posted on 09/04/2022 6:53:32 AM PDT by Magnatron
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Yeah what happened to, “ hey man, art is subjective... man.”

I guess it’s now not so subjective is it hipster?


21 posted on 09/04/2022 6:58:27 AM PDT by Hammerhead
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So much better than most modern art.

In a few years, unless society collapses, computers will make new works in whatever style you like with quality that rivals the historical originals.


22 posted on 09/04/2022 8:00:12 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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You can make your own art using the AI system online. I think the first 25 outputs are free.

https://www.midjourney.com/home/

There is also a showcase gallery of other art it has made. Some is evil and creepy-looking, some is great. A small sample of images is visible without sign up, and millions of images are available if you pay. Examples:


23 posted on 09/04/2022 8:18:06 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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Early in the 20th Century, Frédéric Gérard, owner of Paris' "Au Lapin Agile" cabaret, situated on the western slope of Montmartre hill, took a set against "modern" art, despite the fact that many of his best customers were noted practitioners of some modern style or the other (Monet, Manet, Degas, Picasso, etc).

In 1905, Picasso painted a self-prortait of himself sitting at the bar dressed as a harlequin in "At the Lapin Agile." When he ran short of cash he traded the painting to Frédé for a hot lunch. Frédé didn't think much of it so in 1912 he sold it for about $20 USD equiv. It last changed hands for $41 million USD.


The Au Lapin Agile cabaret, still there and still open for business

Paris' most important art show was the by-invitation-only "Salon," which habitually spurned the modern artists, so they held an exhibition all their own, which they called the "Salon des Indépendants."

To prove his point, Frédé tied a paint brush to the tail of his pet donkey, Lolo, stood it in front of an easel and canvas, then teased it with its favorite treats to encourage it to swish its tail.


An after-the-fact recreation of the event

They signed the work "J.R. Boronal" and entered it in the 1910 Salon des Indépendants, claiming it was the work of a Genoese painter and an adherent to the new "Extremist" style.

The painting received generally positive reviews and sold to a collector for 20 Golden Louies, about $1800 USD adjusted for inflation.


Frédé and his friend, Lolo.

31 posted on 09/04/2022 3:40:51 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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The computer identifies as an artist.


32 posted on 09/04/2022 3:43:21 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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Majikthise and Vroomfondle are also alarmed...but have yet to make any sort of serious comment on the event in question.

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46 posted on 09/05/2022 9:31:55 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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