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China vows ‘counter-measures’ as US okays $1.1bn Taiwan arms sales
PressTV ^ | September 3, 2022 | PressTV

Posted on 09/03/2022 5:12:32 AM PDT by Cathi

China vows ‘counter-measures’ as US okays $1.1bn Taiwan arms sales

Saturday, 03 September 2022 9:31 AM [ Last Update: Saturday, 03 September 2022 9:33 AM ]

China has warned the US of impending “counter-measures” following the Biden administration’s approval of yet another $1.1 billion in weapons sales to Taiwan.

Beijing was "firmly opposed" to the sales that "severely jeopardize China-US relations and peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait," said spokesman for the Chinese embassy in Washington on Twitter Saturday, demanding that Washington "immediately revoke" the deal.

"The US interferes in China's internal affairs and undermines China's sovereignty and security interests by selling arms to Taiwan," wrote Liu Pengyu in the tweet, insisting that “it sends the wrong signals to 'Taiwan independence' separatist forces and severely jeopardizes China-US relations and peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait."

He further called on Washington to "honor its commitments to the one-China principle" and concluded his series of tweets by reiterating that Taiwan is "an inalienable part of the Chinese territory," vowing that Beijing will "resolutely take legitimate and necessary counter-measures."

Liu's statement came after the Biden administration formally notified Congress on Friday of the proposed weapons sales, which include up to 60 anti-ship missiles and up to 100 air-to-air missiles.

The Biden administration asked Congress to approve more than $1 billion in arms sales to Chinese Taipei (Taiwan), despite China’s objections.

The State Department further claimed in a statement that the sales are in line with a longstanding US policy of providing defensive weapons to the island and boasted that the "swift provision" of such arms as being "essential for Taiwan's security."

Tensions between Washington and Beijing have escalated since US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan last month despite stern warnings to Pelosi by China against making the trip. Beijing then reacted to Pelosi’s move by ordering days' worth of military drills around the island after she had left.

Taiwan, meanwhile, declared on Saturday that it "highly welcomes" the latest arms sales, thanking the US government for "continuing to implement its security commitments to Taiwan."

"In response to China's recent continuous military provocations and unilateral changes in the status quo and creating crises, Taiwan's determination to defend itself is extremely firm," Taiwan's Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

"This batch of arms sales includes a large number of various types of missiles that are needed to strengthen Taiwan's self-defense, which fully demonstrates that the great importance the US government attaches to Taiwan's defense needs, assisting our country to obtain the equipment needed for defense in a timely manner and to enhance our national defense capabilities."

Independent China specialist Andrew Leung says the US has been emboldening separatist forces in Taiwan to stand against China.

China’s embassy in UK condemns ‘irresponsible rhetoric’ over Taiwan

Earlier this week, the Chinese embassy in London also censured what it described as UK’s “irresponsible rhetoric” after British Foreign Secretary Liz Truss summoned its ambassador over Beijing’s actions towards Taiwan.

Truss, who is also the top contender to become Britain’s next prime minister, summoned Ambassador Zheng Zeguang on Wednesday, claiming that China’s “increasingly aggressive behavior” following Pelosi’s visit to the self-ruled territory was threatening peace and stability in the region around Taiwan.

Zheng “firmly rejected & strongly condemned UK side’s irresponsible rhetoric about China’s legitimate & necessary response to US House Speaker’s Taiwan visit” in a meeting with a senior British foreign ministry official, the Chinese embassy said in a Twitter post.

“Taiwan is an inseparable part of China’s territory,” it insisted, adding, “No foreign country, UK included, has the right to meddle with the internal affairs of China.”


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: china; unitedstates; war
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To: HYPOCRACY

Economic circumstances aside, an invasion of Taiwan will make Ukraine look like a cake walk. I think that may have been why Xi opted to let Putin go first. Putin already had history on his side with previous invasions of Georgia and Crimea.

I once read that the US Military specifically “hopped” Formosa (Taiwan) during WWII because of the terrain and logistics. It was estimated then that an invasion of that island would cost 500k US casualties.

Militaries have only advanced since then, and Taiwan’s population has grown significantly. I do not believe the Chinese people would want to sacrifice 2 to 3 million of their sons on such an endeavor.


21 posted on 09/03/2022 6:41:17 AM PDT by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: alloysteel

Oh please.

Were you calling Trump a Blunder Bunny when he was selling arms to Taiwan?


22 posted on 09/03/2022 6:43:55 AM PDT by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: beancounter13

Agree. No comparison to Ukraine. 90 miles of sea with subs and ships and planes everywhere. The Chicom landings would be over halfway across the straight.

An island fortress of 25mm people. Not to mention the blowing up of the 3 gorges dam would be the end of China.

Any attempt to invade Taiwan would be a humiliating defeat for China. They’ve never won an external war in their glorious *cough* 5 thousand year history. Why break the streak now?


23 posted on 09/03/2022 7:14:22 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: beancounter13

Trump was holding China and Chairman Xi off at arms’ length all the while he was selling arms to Taiwan, that was just another facet of the offensive he was running against the CCP.

With Trump gone, China is no longer intimidated. Biden can be whipped, slapped, twisted and bullied about just about any way the Chinese want, now. I am calling Biden the Blunder Bunny, he has no cuffing idea WHAT he is doing.

Go count you some beans.


24 posted on 09/03/2022 8:08:23 AM PDT by alloysteel (A born skeptic is now living in a target-rich environment. SO many beliefs to challenge...)
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To: Cathi

Thanks to the free traitors, the communists will be able to pay for their counter measures with our consumer dollars.


25 posted on 09/03/2022 8:20:12 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: Cathi

+++The reason we announced that we would not be sending any more HIMAR launchers to Ukraine this year is because there aren’t any more.+++

We shipped more HIMARS to Ukraine just 2 or 3 weeks ago, when do you say we ran out?


26 posted on 09/03/2022 8:20:20 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-ships-1-billion-more-in-rockets-other-arms-to-ukraine-ahead-of-counteroffensive/

US ships $1 billion more in rockets, other arms to Ukraine ahead of counteroffensive

Package is largest shipment from Washington since conflict began six months ago, includes precision missiles for HIMARS system

The new US aid includes additional rockets for the High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, or HIMARS, as well as thousands of artillery rounds, mortar systems, Javelins and other ammunition and equipment.

While the US has already provided 16 HIMARS to Ukraine, Kahl said the new package does not include additional ones.

“These are not systems that we assess you need in the hundreds to have the type of effects” needed, Kahl said.

“These are precision-guided systems for very particular types of targets and the Ukrainians are using them as such.”


Don’t confuse the rockets with the launchers. We are still shipping rockets.

As I said the U.S. made U.S. Special Forces Marine and Army soldiers return their HIMARS so that they could be sent to Ukraine.

I posted about this a couple weeks ago. The info came from screen shots from the Marines angry about having to return both special guns and HIMARS.


27 posted on 09/03/2022 8:43:24 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

Right, additional rockets but 4 more HUMARs arrived around August 1st. making 20 for Ukraine.

You say America is out of HIMARs now, when did that happen, and for how long?

Four more US-made rocket systems arrived in Ukraine on Monday, officials confirmed.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-made-himars-rocket-systems-ukraine-attack-russian-troops-arrive-2022-8


28 posted on 09/03/2022 9:05:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Cathi
All experts despite being very diverse agreed that these U.S. escalations were going to lead to China invading Taiwan.

It's an midterm election stunt by the Democrats to bring us to the brink of War... they think it'll allow them to keep the House and Senate. Wait two years - elect Trump and avoid World War III

29 posted on 09/03/2022 9:18:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's 'WAR ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE' speech is history's Jimmah Carter's BIG RABBIT blunder..)
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To: Cathi

China vows more empty ‘counter-measures’ as US okays $1.1bn Taiwan arms sales

Fixed


30 posted on 09/03/2022 9:20:22 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ansel12

No, as your own August 1st (Monday) source said...
“Four more US-made rocket systems arrived in Ukraine on Monday, officials confirmed.

Ukraine now has 16 High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) in its possession.”

The link I gave you was from August 9 and it said
“While the US has already provided 16 HIMARS to Ukraine, Kahl said the new package does not include additional ones.”

So your article says they had 16 in their possession on Aug. 1 and mine from August 9 said they already had 16.

No where does that make or say 20 in either article. BTW, since Russia took out another one yesterday they are currently down to 7.


31 posted on 09/03/2022 9:30:45 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: alloysteel

I would agree that Biden has no control over his bodily functions, but I suggest in this situation, it is really the State Department calling the shots just as they have for the past 50 years.


32 posted on 09/03/2022 9:32:56 AM PDT by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: Cathi

It seems you are right about the 16, as I was looking at numbers, sources I didn’t want to use sometimes said 20 and not being that important I also just thought the additional 4 sent out of the zero left that you described, equaled

“”””The reason we announced that we would not be sending any more HIMAR launchers to Ukraine this year is because there aren’t any more.””””

When did we run out of HIMARs? Where did we use up all the 100s we had?


33 posted on 09/03/2022 10:56:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Cathi

It seems you are right about the 16, as I was looking at numbers, sources I didn’t want to use sometimes said 20, and not being that important I also just thought the additional 4 sent out of the zero left that you described, equaled 20.

“”””The reason we announced that we would not be sending any more HIMAR launchers to Ukraine this year is because there aren’t any more.””””

When did we run out of HIMARs? Where did we use up all the 100s we had?


34 posted on 09/03/2022 10:57:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

They planned (or plan) to build 900; but so far only 540 have been built.

They have made sales to other countries though I haven’t seen anything indicating what numbers and many of the deals could be like Poland where they are for long term future delivery dates.

I assume they have been widely distributed among American forces and even though some have been taken back unwillingly...:-) since they have only sold a small amount to Ukraine most of the U.S. forces should still have theirs.

The other interesting thing is that about a month of so ago Russia bombed an American air base in Syria and their HIMARS were destroyed (though I don’t know how many they had.)

That was done in retaliation for an earlier American attack on a base with Russians and some Russians were killed.

Even the missiles (rockets) are not in good supply. Ukraine has only been able to get hundreds and Russia between blowing up weapon depots and intercepting HIMAR attacks has gone through a lot of their inventory which is why that recent order contained additional rockets.


35 posted on 09/03/2022 11:41:09 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: mylife

It’s not an either or world. Russia is invading other countries. They are CLEARLY a threat. China is threatening, ALSO a threat.


36 posted on 09/03/2022 11:45:44 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Cathi

You seem to be full of a lot of pro-Russia/Pro-Red China, anti-American nonsense.

We aren’t anywhere close to not having any more HIMARs as you claim.

Bombed an American air base? How many aircraft did we lose along with HIMARs, and men? What were the losses at Al-Tanf outpost sometimes used by our and British, Special Forces?


37 posted on 09/03/2022 12:15:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Cathi
Yet in May the NYT reported that the U.S. sent more than $54 billion to Ukraine since the war against Russia started, broken down into multiple types of aid. Added to that, Aug 23, 2022, US to send $3 billion in aid to Ukraine , and Sep 2, 2022: Biden to Request $11.7 Billion in Ukraine Aid.
38 posted on 09/03/2022 12:47:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: ansel12

Good bye


39 posted on 09/03/2022 12:51:26 PM PDT by Cathi
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