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‘The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power’ Is Not Pushing A Woke Agenda
Forbes ^ | Sep 1, 2022 | Erik Kain

Posted on 09/02/2022 5:34:37 PM PDT by nickcarraway

One of the more tiresome complaints I’ve heard online about Amazon’s Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power show is that it’s pushing a woke agenda—cramming said agenda down our collective throats in an attempt to push some leftist identity politics on the masses.

This is a silly critique for the most part, driven by idle speculation and a fandom that has been utterly overwhelmed by culture wars and endless politics. There used to be a time, not so long ago, when we could enjoy movies and TV shows and video games without a constant barrage of politically charged opinions, angry click-hungry YouTube videos and massive, charged debates on social media and forums.

Or maybe I’m looking at the past with rosy-tinted glasses. All I know is that when I went to school in the 90s’ most of my classmates and I didn’t really care who was president, didn’t really talk about the election and never argued about the political messaging in Beavis and Butthead or Seinfeld.

Now, I understand that this cuts both ways. There has been a concerted effort by those peddling identity politics to get that message—or ‘The Message’ as it’s come to be known in some circles—into games and shows and movies, often at the expense of quality.

Recently, I talked about She-Hulk, which is a charming enough Disney+ MCU show—other than its heavy-handed approach to its protagonist. The show is so concerned with making Jessica Walters (aka She-Hulk) a Strong Female Protagonist that it mangles the script. Instead of making the character strong on her own merits, it does so by making the men around her creepy and sexist. Pro-tip: You should probably not make Hulk look bad when making a spinoff about She-Hulk.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; TV/Movies; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: amazon; erikkain; forbes; forbeshorsehockey; ringsofpower
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To: Telepathic Intruder

I meant the author, pictured in #4 ...


41 posted on 09/02/2022 6:44:27 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: BigEdLB

WTH, i mean could they possibly make it any harder to read???


42 posted on 09/02/2022 6:44:35 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: nickcarraway
I watched the first episode. I won't bother watching any more of them.

Definitely a hot mess of "woke", feminized, third-rate script writing. Has only the most superficial connection to anything that Tolkien ever wrote.

43 posted on 09/02/2022 6:50:50 PM PDT by flamberge (Those who pose the greatest danger to you are living within five miles of you.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Now that’s cultural appropriation.


44 posted on 09/02/2022 6:51:04 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“Technically, elves are immune to the elements. They don’t get cold, they don’t die naturally, and they don’t get monkeypox.” [Telepathic Intruder, post 40]

They do get cold. Reread The Silmarillion.

You are correct about the last two. the Elder Children also need to breathe air.


45 posted on 09/02/2022 6:52:07 PM PDT by schurmann ( )
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To: 1ScrappyArmyMom

I liked when she threw one of the orcs out the window and it landed on a cop car...


46 posted on 09/02/2022 7:08:00 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: kiryandil

The producer says it’s woke. The actors say it’s woke. The fake fan groups put together by Amazon and given special screenings say it’s woke. But when the true fans push back against the changes the studio denies it and cries racism and anti feminism. Nerdrotic is a guy who is a Tolkien nut. He knows his stuff. He has a YouTube channel and has been following these events for awhile. I like how he pushes back against the groupthink. Here’s his show from a week ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3gfRRU9pv8


47 posted on 09/02/2022 7:10:02 PM PDT by freefdny
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To: schurmann

I’ve read it twice actually. I should go back a read all of it again, however. This shit coming out of Amazon is making me want to.


48 posted on 09/02/2022 7:11:35 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: nickcarraway

Guy-Ladriel, Warrior Princess.


49 posted on 09/02/2022 7:13:05 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: BenLurkin
The writing is dull and unoriginal, with chunks of dialog both large and small lifted almost verbatim from other equally average productions.

Seems like a chore but they are getting paid so they write the lines but we can tell.

50 posted on 09/02/2022 7:30:03 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: nickcarraway

I just watched the first episode. Not woke. Not yet anyway.


51 posted on 09/02/2022 7:43:03 PM PDT by Boomer ( George Orwell: “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” )
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To: freefdny

Thanks for the video link! :)


52 posted on 09/02/2022 7:51:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BenLurkin
"I watched Episodes One and Two and see two main problems,

On one hand they are very average. Lazy even.

On the other hand, the series is not actual Tolkien but more of a reboot. And not a very good one."

As boring as the Silmarillion.

The stupidest thing that Star Trek ever did was to create a black Vulcan. Yeah, they had a black guy playing a Klingon before that, but you couldn't have told he was black except for the sonorous voice, because all Klingons were dark-complected. I knew the instant I first heard Worf speak that the actor inside was black, but it was years later before I saw Michael Dorn's face to confirm.

But the black Vulcan wasn't just dark complected, he also had a broad nose, thick lips, brown eyes and afro hair. In an unrelated species that evolved a million light years from earth. Yuh, right.

Suggesting that Vulcans, a non-human species from a galaxy far, far away, should have had an evolutionary anomaly that mirrored one that also took place on earth is absolutely farcical.

"The Rings of Power" is equally as stupid because it has black folk scattered through the Hobbits. For no reason that adds to the quality of the show, they did it purely because that's what's in the Wokester's pl, and I for on don't like where they're steering udaybook.

But the strangest/stupidest bit is that blackness doesn't seem to be hereditary. It appears to occur randomly in families without continuity or consanguinity. Either that or there's lots of infidelity going on in Hobbitown.

Tolkien had female characters doing heroic things, but only rarely and largely in isolation. Not enough to carry a storyline so I think he would resent a plot spun off from his works featuring a female as the leading heroic figure.

And all of this is being done in the name of Wokeness. So don't piss down my leg, try to convince me it's raining and expect me not to resent it. I know when I'm being preached to and I won't stand for it. Entertainment aside, they're re-engineering OUR culture for THEIR benefit, and you either stand up to it whenever and wherever you recognize it or you grab ankle and submit.

53 posted on 09/02/2022 8:02:20 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: SES1066

Forbes magazine hasn’t been worth a damn since Malcolm Forbes Junior died years ago and yes it is now majority owned by Chinese publishing company in Hong Kong


54 posted on 09/02/2022 8:11:08 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: nickcarraway

Yawn. Zero interest in this dreck.


55 posted on 09/02/2022 8:12:53 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Paal Gulli

There may be estranged individuals out there who can get bent out of shape over something so trivial. Just glad I’m not one of them.


56 posted on 09/02/2022 8:14:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: nickcarraway

Line from nine minutes into the opening episode:

“...It’s been years since the last Orc was sighted....”

Substitute “White Walker” for “Orc” and it could be a line that was repeated dozens of times in Game of Thrones.

Lazy is right.

Why bother spending big money for a good script when the general public has lost its ability to entertain themselves and is bored enough to watch any schlock (as GOT proved)?


57 posted on 09/02/2022 8:16:51 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: kiryandil

I personally KNOW all the producers for each episode here.

They’re the biggest woke wimp leftards in Hollywood. Two of them I manage not to punch in the face due to their in your face politics.


58 posted on 09/02/2022 8:20:07 PM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2008 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: max americana

I admire your forbearance.


59 posted on 09/02/2022 8:25:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: max americana
But WWSDDD?

But What Would Sergeant Donny Donowitz do?     

60 posted on 09/02/2022 8:27:44 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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