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OHIO FATHER GUNS DOWN DAUGHTER'S EX ... Fatal Shooting On Video
TMZ ^ | 8/29/2022 | TMZ

Posted on 08/30/2022 10:51:37 AM PDT by Signalman

A father in Ohio shot and killed his daughter's ex-boyfriend during an alleged break-in at the family home ... and it's all on video.

The fatal shooting was captured on a Ring doorbell camera, and it shows the moment 22-year-old James Rayl is gunned down after forcing open the front door.

Three shots ring out and Rayl stumbles down the porch steps before collapsing in the driveway ... and police say Rayl was dead by the time officers arrived.

In the video, you hear people inside the home telling Rayl to get off the porch and leave ... and there's also a verbal warning about someone having a gun.

The girl's father, Mitch Duckro, told cops he fired the shots ... and police say an autopsy found Rayl suffered gunshot wounds to both shoulders and his back.

The fatal shooting went down in July but the video just surfaced ... and earlier this month a grand jury voted against indicting Duckro on charges relating to the incident.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; andagain; andkarenagain; banglist; homeinvasion; jamesrayl; mitchduckro; nra; ohio; ohiofather; secondamendment; tmz
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To: Tenacious 1

The kid shouldn’t have been trying to break in. No telling what he was gonna do if he got inside.

This was justifiable.


61 posted on 08/30/2022 2:04:27 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: lowbridge

Even more wow.


62 posted on 08/30/2022 2:08:06 PM PDT by FamiliarFace (I wish “smart resume” would work for the real world so I could FF through the Burden admin BS.)
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To: joma89

Folks above are making way too much about the second and third shots. Defensive coaching requires shooting until the threat is stopped. The first solid hit on a body causes recoil, spinning, falling, jumping, etc. There is no rule that says a trouble causing dumbass has to stand still so you can get a clear shot at him. If the shot that hit the back went straight in there might be a question. But if the probe shows the hit was at an angle it means the target was already spinning when the third trigger got pulled. And I didn’t see how large caliber the Dad’s gun was: A 45 or 357 might very well spin a dummy several times as well as lighten him up by removing body parts. In this case if he was still yelling about killing the daughter that needed to be addressed with a couple xtra rounds. Like the old sheriff said when asked why they shot the criminal 60 times: we ran out of ammo.


63 posted on 08/30/2022 2:21:48 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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To: IYAS9YAS
Exactly right. The writer must be a gun hating lib. I bet this was the first title before the editor got involved.

“Gunned down Ex by a gun owner, who owns guns that gun down people. Guns!”

64 posted on 08/30/2022 2:24:46 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Guns down implies cold blood. This was justifiable.

Yup. Pretty much sounds like it. Good shootin.

65 posted on 08/30/2022 2:27:13 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Signalman
"'and his back'. That part bothers me. He was shot in the back. But I guess it didn't bother the Grand Jury."

There's reaction time to decide to pull the trigger plus the time to aim or point and to actually pull the trigger. Also, did the individual attempting to break in go back and forth before trying to break in? If so, that might indicate a possibility that he would turn and try to break in again. Might the would-be attacker be under the influence of a drug that could cause him to fail to perceive pain to himself (e.g., disassociation from an hallucinogen or stimulant)?

66 posted on 08/30/2022 2:35:20 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Signalman

Probably got it when he was leaning into the door with his shoulder ... shot in the back from the side.


67 posted on 08/30/2022 2:48:00 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Signalman

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xrGST3l7NV0

Probably already posted, GMTA.


68 posted on 08/30/2022 2:49:21 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: ansel12

Agreed. The phrases, “went down” and “going down,” weren’t in much use in the past. It was like “groovy” in that sense. But sometime since 2000, the less technically inclined common consumer Internet subscribers picked it up from the song and from movies and made it more common. It’s an anti-defense thing...a lefty rebellion fantasy thing.


69 posted on 08/30/2022 2:54:04 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Signalman

Unethical use of a gun. The guy (1) waited at the door for a few minutes and then (2) tried to open the door. Both activities are fine. Both actions are not mortal sins.
If the door is locked, then no need to worry about an intruder. If the door is unlocked, then simply ask him to leave.
Dialogue is always the first step and shooting is always the last resort.


70 posted on 08/30/2022 2:55:30 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Signalman

By the way, did they skip doing a toxicology exam and report on the body of James Rayl? The drug-free people in America want to know.


71 posted on 08/30/2022 2:57:13 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Falconspeed

Evidently your doors are special. Because most homes’ doors are not strong enough to keep our a determined person. If the door is broken/splintered from the action of the person trying to force entry no one should have to be surprised when the home’s occupants use a tool to stop the intruder.


72 posted on 08/30/2022 3:06:04 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: familyop

I watched as everyone tried to get my toddler son to do all the jive handshakes in the mid-70s and I told them don’t do that, even in the Army before that I refused to do all that silly 2-minute hand bumping and gestures in place of a handshake.

From the late 60s when black street/jive culture started being promoted as the essence of cool and being real, the TV shows started working it in, cop shows started asking “what went down”, etc., all part of the breakdown of the culture.


73 posted on 08/30/2022 3:21:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Agreed. The phrases, “went down” and “going down,” weren’t in much use in the past. It was like “groovy” in that sense. But sometime since 2000, the less technically inclined common consumer Internet subscribers picked it up from the song and from movies and made it more common. It’s an anti-defense thing...a lefty rebellion fantasy thing.

Forgot to post a link to the “song.”

Buffalo Springfield - For What It’s Worth 1967
https://youtu.be/gp5JCrSXkJY


74 posted on 08/30/2022 3:24:47 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Signalman

they stopped the vid feed but the sound remained and he was shot the first 2 times facing the gun and the third shot was probably his back...


75 posted on 08/30/2022 3:30:28 PM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: HamiltonJay

technically the first time he laid his shoulder into the door he was fair game.


76 posted on 08/30/2022 3:32:10 PM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: Jimmy Valentine

You know her new prom date will be on time and polite to the parents when he picks her up.


77 posted on 08/30/2022 3:32:14 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Falconspeed
"Dialogue is always the first step and shooting is always the last resort."

1. You park in a parking lot and get out of the car with your teenage daughter. Two men get out of a white van. One pulls a weapon, and they run towards your daughter.

2. A neighbor addicted to meth tells other neighbors that he's going to kill you. The next day, you walk out towards your car, and the crazy neighbor pulls a weapon and points it at you.

3. You stop at a traffic light. A stranger jumps out of his vehicle, runs to your vehicle and smashes your window inches from your face.

What did "Tuco" (Eli Wallach) say about talking in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)?"

[Okay, a little humor there. But I'm sure that you catch my drift.]

78 posted on 08/30/2022 3:40:35 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: RetiredTexasVet; Signalman
"Probably got it when he was leaning into the door with his shoulder ... shot in the back from the side."

That's a strong possibility. At least one article said that the resident there fired through a window.

79 posted on 08/30/2022 3:44:18 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

Don’t matter to me...You try to kill me and my family...I am shooting till I have no more bullets...front, side, back...whatever.


80 posted on 08/30/2022 3:47:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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