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Why I’m Leaving California (my honest thoughts will probably offend you)
YouTube ^ | 11 Feb 2022 | Honey & Absinthe

Posted on 08/24/2022 6:04:21 PM PDT by Steely Tom

As a California, moving out of California especially Los Angeles was not an easy decision. I grew up here, all my friends and family are here, and my whole career was here. But with high taxes, expensive cost of living, and dwindling opportunity, there’s no longer any incentive to live here. I’m in the process of moving and every time I get any kind of fear or anxiety, I consider these pros and cons about why you should leave and other people shouldn’t move here.


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KEYWORDS: calexit; california
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To: MayflowerMadam; butlerweave

“Soon you’ll need special permission to leave California.”

That’s not even a joke. Before we left in 2010 they were kicking around the idea of an “Exodus Tax”, and it was getting some interest in Sacramento.

Apparently 3 states are trying to bludgeon taxes on part time citizens: Oregon, NY and California.

A friend just lost her husband, They met in NY and got married 5 years ago and moved to California where he worked for the government for decades before retiring.

The husband owned some coastal property in Oregone and had not used the property for 2 decades and had a worthless relative moved into the property for 2 decades and never paid rent.

Now Oregone is say she owes taxes on rent never received by her husband with fines.

NY has something similar going on re their living in California 5 years before he died.

She was warned by a friend to never marry the man she loved.


21 posted on 08/24/2022 6:46:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Anyone, who can make you believe in absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.!" ~ (Voltaire)!!)
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To: Steely Tom
Ha! I watched the whole thing. Yes, she should leave LA, and she should leave California.

I left decades ago. It's interesting how many of her complaints were mine way back then.

There IS life east of I-5!

22 posted on 08/24/2022 6:46:48 PM PDT by TChad ("Joe, we should evacuate the civilians before the military. You understand that, right? Joe?")
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To: Beowulf9
Yeah, great song.

Backup musicians included the best in the business:

Jeff Porcaro, drums
Michael Boddicker, synthesizers
Jay Graydon, guitar, guitar solo
Steve Lukather, rhythm guitar
David Hungate, bass

23 posted on 08/24/2022 6:52:34 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom

Was there any song Steve Lukather didn’t play on in the 80s?


24 posted on 08/24/2022 6:54:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Steely Tom

That is basically the same story everyone has. We were not happy either becoming foreigners in our CA home town...Then throw in the crime, the sky high expenses, crippling taxes, illegals, Communist state government, etc...


25 posted on 08/24/2022 6:57:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dfwgator; Beowulf9
Was there any song Steve Lukather didn’t play on in the 80s?

Yup, he was a true A-lister, but so were all the others on the recording linked by Beowulf9.

How fun it must have been to be that talented, be solidly in the middle of the music business, in California in the '70s and '80s. Hard to imagine anything sweeter. A very, very selective club.

26 posted on 08/24/2022 7:00:01 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom
LA has proved too much for that chick ...


27 posted on 08/24/2022 7:00:58 PM PDT by x
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To: Steely Tom

Probably the weirdest Lukather appearance was in Cheech and Chong’s Next Movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6PpCA7BV7E


28 posted on 08/24/2022 7:02:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: x
Funny, I was listening to that song a couple of days ago.

Nice song, but the idea of someone dropping everything they had in LA to follow a lover back to Georgia is just a little hard to believe, at least when that song was made (1973).

29 posted on 08/24/2022 7:02:57 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom
California Leavin (parody)
https://youtu.be/ApfBvkql0lI
30 posted on 08/24/2022 7:08:52 PM PDT by PsyCon
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To: dfwgator

That was Lukather? Funny! I encountered a scene like that once or twice, back in my musician days. Not that extreme though, I admit.


31 posted on 08/24/2022 7:09:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom

Watch that door on the way out.


32 posted on 08/24/2022 7:10:54 PM PDT by sasquatch
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To: Beowulf9

Ah…..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RbiZDCKSEM0


33 posted on 08/24/2022 7:10:57 PM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Steely Tom

So talented. Ca at that time was still good.


34 posted on 08/24/2022 7:13:22 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Steely Tom

I have been in Texas, a refugee from SoCal for just over a month. We were still talking to our realtor on the driveway of the house we bought sight-unseen when three of our neighbors came over to introduce themselves. I didn’t know the name of my immediate neighbors in SoCal, they didn’t speak English. The biggest difference so far, I used to have to schedule extra time to drive the couple miles for what I needed, now I have to schedule extra time to talk to someone I have never met before for 30+ minutes. Loving Texas!


35 posted on 08/24/2022 7:14:14 PM PDT by Yogafist (Voting rino is voting for the managed decline of America.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
That’s not even a joke. Before we left in 2010 they were kicking around the idea of an “Exodus Tax”, and it was getting some interest in Sacramento.

If you sell a California property for a 1031 exchange elsewhere, you are required to file California 540 forms for the next 5 years, and if you ever dare convert the property to a different use, you must file one more 540 so California can, in their words, as written in the law, "CLAW BACK" your tax savings!

36 posted on 08/24/2022 7:18:42 PM PDT by null and void (they promise the jetsons but deliver the flintstones)
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To: combat_boots
Manhattan Transfer is on a completely different plane, no question about that.

Cheryl Bentyne has the most seductive voice I've ever heard.

37 posted on 08/24/2022 7:20:20 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Jane Long

Moved in 2000 to a very good location in Az. Gosar is our Rep. There is a church on every corner. Properties are cheap and Ca folks buy them up quick. In 20 years we retired ourselves with a great bankroll buying and selling properties. :)

Nope, only had to live camping for six months and then things started rolling in for us... The lack of over-regulation treated us very well... :)


38 posted on 08/24/2022 7:21:28 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: butlerweave
Soon you’ll need special permission to leave California

Don't know how many here have read Kurt Schlichter's Kelly Turnbull novels, set in the near future where blue and red have split and California is basically Venezuela. There, the Mexicans have built a wall to keep the Californians from coming over the border, so they have to sneak through drug running tunnels.

39 posted on 08/24/2022 7:21:53 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: Steely Tom

I moved to Florida last November. Now, Maryland is not as bad as Cali. Yet. But it’s too close to DC.


40 posted on 08/24/2022 7:25:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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