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To: grey_whiskers

>>>>Re your “... if you are even a US citizen”<<<<

Of course I am. My ancestors on both sides came here in the 1600s (Jamestown and Massachusetts Bay Colony, to begin with) and fought in the Revolutionary War.

How about you? You a citizen?

>>>>Re your “Not a red herring; if you trust government officials like Pfauci and the CDC, you have no call to reject HHS, who can’t come out and say men are unable to get pregnant.”<<<<

Yes, of course it’s a red herring. I have repeatedly called out Fauci as a liar here on FR and you know it. I have also repeatedly stated that men can’t get pregnant.

But if you want to insist men can get pregnant, then it’s fine by me if we modify Korey’s claim to “78% of pregnancies end in miscarriage” and leave out the “women” part.

>>>>Re your “The claim you are defending is that 78% of pregnancies among vaccinated women in 2021 ended in miscarriage.” [this last quoting me]

“Don’t put words in my mouth, troll.

There are too many potential issues with the study, and with the jabs, to allow the generalization you just made.” <<<<<

Ah, but you did start out defending Korey’s claim that 78% of pregnancies ended in miscarriage in 2021. It’s quite plain to anyone reading this thread.

If you are now backing off defending Korey’s 78% claim, after consideration, that is a reasonable stance to adopt. So what exactly is your position now?

At least we are in agreement about “too many issues” with Korey’s numbers.

>>>>Re your “Break down the birth rate by age, ethinicity, legal immigrant/illegal immigrant/citizen, and jab status.”<<<<

I already provided a breakdown by ethnicity, etc. Now you want me to do more of your research for you?

I’m not the one making the extraordinary claim that 78% of pregnancies ended in miscarriage in 2021. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, yet you offer no proof at all. Why don’t you find whatever statistics you think will support your argument instead? I support my statements with references and links. You rarely do, and then it’s some meme featuring the likes of Naomi Wolfe.

Re your “...and that’s only the beginning. Try harder, troll.”

Ah, now we come to the heart of your tricks. Demanding more and more proof, none of which you will accept. Reminds me of the old “Ashli Babbitt isn’t really dead” conspiracy theory you guys were pushing, the one in the Sham Wow Guy video you kept posting over and over again here claiming she was a crisis actor, as were the EMTs and her family, the blood was fake, the window she tried to climb through was actually a “movie set window” installed the night before, etc.

When reasonable Freepers pointed out that she really was dead, those who defended the video demanded statements from her family as proof. When we provided quotes from her family, they dismissed them as “crisis actors” in on the plot and demanded notices of her funeral. When these were provided, they demanded photos of her memorial service. These, too, were duly provided, but were dismissed as “fake”. They then said they would only accept a death certificate. Well, I have never seen a death certificate published in the press. That just doesn’t happen and they knew it. If, by some miracle her death certificate had been published, they would have dismissed as being fake, too, of course.

Sorry,not playing that game again.


60 posted on 08/23/2022 7:15:26 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd
Of course I am. My ancestors on both sides came here in the 1600s (Jamestown and Massachusetts Bay Colony, to begin with) and fought in the Revolutionary War.

Ah, you're from Massachusetts. I begin to see the (liberal) problem.

How about you? You a citizen?

Of course.

Yes, of course it’s a red herring. I have repeatedly called out Fauci as a liar here on FR and you know it. I have also repeatedly stated that men can’t get pregnant.

I know one of your fellow trolls has called out Fauci; but I don't remember you doing it: or, more importantly, *when* and *why*.

Are you going to call out HHS for their tomfoolery? And with it, own the idea that the leadership is corrupt, and therefore, pronouncements made under their leadership are not to be given the presumption of truth (which would include..."studies")

Ah, but you did start out defending Korey’s claim that 78% of pregnancies ended in miscarriage in 2021. It’s quite plain to anyone reading this thread.

Give the exact post # I made that said so.

If you are now backing off defending Korey’s 78% claim, after consideration, that is a reasonable stance to adopt. So what exactly is your position now?

My position is that you're a troll.

The actual claim is, not that 78% of pregnancies ended in miscarriage in 2021.

Corey didn't claim that.

He was analyzing a study from Pfizer which they had tried to have hidden for 75 years.

The 78% figure, comes from

The pregnancies in the study

Which were known when the study started

For which an outcome to the pregnancy was reported to the study

Since there were 270 pregnancies in the study, and 232 of them had no outcome reported, Pfizer wasn't tracking very well.

Pfizer cannot claim. 25 terminated pregnancies out of 270 in the study: to do so would be to ASSUME all the non-reported pregnancies, went to full term.

For the known results, you have to adjust the denominator to remove the lost-to-followup cases.

That's what he did.

So he claimed, of the known pregnancies in that study, for which an outcome of the pregnancy was reported, 78% of those resulted in dead babies.

Which is not the same as 78% of all pregnancies nationwide in 2021 ended in miscarriage.

I already provided a breakdown by ethnicity, etc. Now you want me to do more of your research for you?

You didn't do your own research to my satisfaction: if a large share of US births is illegal aliens, and they didn't get the clot shots, then your canard "how come births went up" is partially falsified. Same applies to other ethnic groups / age, geography, and the timing of the births / pregnancies relative to the clot shots. Just using an overall percentage isn't gonna cut it.

Ah, now we come to the heart of your tricks. Demanding more and more proof, none of which you will accept. Reminds me of the old “Ashli Babbitt isn’t really dead” conspiracy theory you guys were pushing, the one in the Sham Wow Guy video you kept posting over and over again here claiming she was a crisis actor, as were the EMTs and her family, the blood was fake, the window she tried to climb through was actually a “movie set window” installed the night before, etc.

You're projecting about demanding more and more proof.

And I largely haven't commented on the Ashli Babbit shooting at all, except that it's odd the guy who appears to be involved got a rubber-stamp sham investigation clearing him.

But those are YOUR lies, again, troll: pulling in every possible conspiracy theory and mistake, and insisting that everyone pushing against the clot shots necessarily has investigated and accepted ALL of them.

Get rekt.

61 posted on 08/23/2022 7:45:11 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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