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1 posted on 08/10/2022 11:22:47 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 08/10/2022 11:22:59 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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no


3 posted on 08/10/2022 11:25:35 AM PDT by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep Wright)
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"The" Linux desktop?

More like "a" Linux desktop, and good luck getting everyone to sign up to the same one.

Yes, businesses will punt and settle for Red Hat, but the Linux fanatics will shed oceans of tears.

4 posted on 08/10/2022 11:32:36 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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There’s a reason the internet runs mostly on Linux.


5 posted on 08/10/2022 11:34:12 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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“Businesses should dump Windows for the Linux desktop”

That should have happened around the time the first version of windows came out around 1985


6 posted on 08/10/2022 11:37:12 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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Just test-driving Windows 11.

As usual, 7,000 useless processes are running in the background, dragging down the performance of my "new" machine, so now I have to go into the Windows garden and weed out the cr@p.

I'm a computer guy.

I just wonder what ordinary people do. Grin and bear it?

12 posted on 08/10/2022 11:52:33 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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My Windows 10 machine can lock up when it wants to do an update.

I can lose an half hour worth or work if I forget to save more often.


14 posted on 08/10/2022 11:58:38 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Today's Windows is still built on a standalone PC operating system foundation.

I disagree. Today's Windows really owes little to Windows for Workgroups or any of of the 16 bit Windows. Its roots are in Windows NT/Wondows 2000 which was written from the ground up.

One of the main reasons I switched to Linux is actually BECAUSE Linux is more of a standalone environment if you want it to be. Windows opens all the windows (no pun intended) to the Internet by default, largely to Cortana and Office 365 and subscriptions and mandatory updates and OneDrive.

My Ubuntu suggests uopdates sometimes to be sure, but I never have to install them. They also don't require a reboot. They also don't undo my background and dozens of settings that were tweaked (Microsoft's defaults, like maximize graphic experience on servers and turn off showing extensions on servers) are remarkable in how wrong-headed they are.

So, yay Linux for the desktop, imperfect as it is. But yay, because it ISN'T just a network environment system. It is customizeable from kiosques to phones to laptops to DataCenter appliances to massive web farms and yes to desktops and workstations.
15 posted on 08/10/2022 11:58:45 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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The Dell Linux laptops seem to be far more expensive than typical Windows PCs.


16 posted on 08/10/2022 12:00:02 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I can type a few thousand Russian characters a day and Windows can decide to remove my Russian (and Arabic) character access (and on-screen keyboard frequent program access), even though it retains Japanese IME access.


18 posted on 08/10/2022 12:04:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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In 2013 my Windows machine worked quite well.

Microsoft network programmers are like Biden administration workers, the more they work, the more of a mess they make.

A PC should never lock up due to being on a network. The start menu button, the x (close the program/window) controls, and the window slider bars should always be responsive. The Notepad and Word programs should not be stalled by network access and by updating.


21 posted on 08/10/2022 12:12:22 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Ha ha. They’ve been saying this for decades. And the few that tried it typically go back to windows.


23 posted on 08/10/2022 12:14:56 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To limit ransomware dangers, drives that can be written to and read from should be developed that don’t allow erasing.

These would permit databases to be rebuilt.


25 posted on 08/10/2022 12:20:30 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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One of the problems with modern computers is that their memory can be used for both data and programs, permitting programs to be easily corrupted.


27 posted on 08/10/2022 12:24:06 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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My Chromebook has a very small screen.

I prefer my Windows machine for its larger screen size.

I’m thinking of buying a large screen Chromebook. I’ll just hate owning so many computer devices.

The Ipad is of a small size with a good screen. Unfortunately, Apple has its own way of doing things, one that I don’t seem to be able to just guess at. By the mid-1980s, I thought menu-driven programs were thought to be the way to go.


32 posted on 08/10/2022 12:32:38 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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I worked for a utility company for the last fifteen years of my IT career.

The company hired an ex Amazon IT exec as their Director of Desktop IT Services. He told me that Amazon is a huge Linux shop and expressed interest in introducing Linus into our environment (we were a predominantly Windows shop). But he couldn’t get any traction - nobody wanted to be bothered.

He asked me it I was interested in taking on a project and I agreed to explore incorporating the Foghat Imaging solution into computer deployment infrastructure. I did my research, requisitioned surplus servers, and built out the test system. I devised a test image using Ubuntu and built a driver utility library to accommodate dropping my image to a variety of desktop and laptop hardware.

I could remotely image a desktop to my Ubuntu image - as long as the target was in the same subnet as the imaging server. So I needed permission from Network Services to extend my test server to other subnets in order to complete my test project. No go. They refused access because I wasn’t a member of the Network Services team, nor was I anyone of sufficient stature in IT to warrant any special dispensation.

My director did what he could to intervene but even he didn’t rank high enough to break the barriers of the good ol boys club.

I presented my project (such as it was), my director was suitably impressed as he was suitably annoyed. All the gear was broken down and returned to stock. And that was the closest to a hybrid Windows/Linux shop they ever came.


35 posted on 08/10/2022 12:44:24 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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FYI- on the Microsoft licensing side (which you need courses to understand their convolution) they have now intertwined Enterprise licensing with their M365 products as a package to keep you locked in their ecosystem.
An example would be my company purchased E3 licenses for standard office workers and the Windows 10 Enterprise desktop license is rolled into it with their 365 (Sharepoint department portals, Teams, power automate stuff, etc).
The server side is just as bad, but at least you have the option of running Linux with Azure integration.


39 posted on 08/10/2022 1:00:18 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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Linux: Those Windows 11 Laptops are nothing more than bloatware tracking lollipops.

I often times use a text editor offline to write posts for online commenting. That is the case here. What is also the case is that I am doing this in LibreOffice. Not much you can do in Microsoft Word that can’t be done with the free Libre that comes with Linux/Ubuntu.

Perhaps ten years ago I began to realize that Billy Boy Gates was going to mess up with windows. And he did. Repeatedly. It has never been secure. Even with adding Anti Malware; Anti Spyware; AntiVirus; Anti this and that.
Even Cleaners to keep the desktop environment clean and running well. Windows simply messed up.

Then I discovered Linux around the Windows xp time and experimented with it. At that point it was not as usable for the average person, and needed to have a lot of bug fixes.

Still it worked and what was best was the price. It was indeed free, and it continues to be so, and there is a program out there for nearly every one of those available for the windows systems today. In fact some of the free ones like Gimp for images is pretty darn good. Linux/Ubuntu much improved.

When I went with Windows ten I didn’t want to. But because I had a treasure trove of Windows compatible only programs I needed and paid a ton of money for, I didn’t make the switch.
[I knew at some point..probably from Win10 to 11 they would force me to switch.] So I began some program migration.

I was ready when my i5 laptop told me Bill Gates would not let me use it for win 11. [guess he thought I had stupid written all over me] [[he doesn’t know me, but I know him] ]
What I had written all over me was Linux Distro. Downloaded and ready for the switch.
I was running three systems, all Win 10. Two of them i3 desktops, an i5 desktop and an i5 Laptop. Not a single one of which according to Bill was compatible with win 11. Further my wife had a nice laptop not compatible. If ever I was going to do it, now was the time for the switch.
My wife went ahead and bought the Win 11 super tracking laptop lollipop, and says she loves it. I personally do not like any tracking or adds or anything else that is billy gatey oriented. Sooo…

I copied all my files to separate hard drives, bought several new Solid state drives for my systems, downloaded the latest 22.04 distro and loaded it onto a new USB stick.
[kept the old Hds for the files just in case] And for less than 60 bucks created three new Ubuntu systems that were screaming fast.
I have everything on my new systems I had on my old Windows ones. I knew this day was coming and I was prepared for it having saved thousands of files over the years in formats that I knew Ubuntu could handle in their various free programs. I even had an Ubuntu loaded computer with an older distro to test some programs and files with.
As the OP is trying to say folks. Business or Personal. If you need to be secure, and you do not want everyone knowing what you do, where you go, or what you buy online.
Linux is your baby. All those crazy windows programs running in the background? Not now. Its even worse with windows 11.
The latest Linux for me is Ubuntu 20.04 which is free and comes with 5 years of support, which you probably won’t need. But best off all, even beyond the free part is the fact that if you need to, LibreOffice can even open and save Microsoft office files. So if you have been using Office from Bill, you can open those files and work on them in office from Linux. And save either way.
This is one free thing that is actually the real deal.
Linux has been around for a while, but it has markedly improved over the years, and there is no longer a need for Windows based systems. Neither at home or for work.
I am D’Andrew and I approved this message [sorry folks, but it really is close to election time]


40 posted on 08/10/2022 1:05:10 PM PDT by harpolemond (And yes. Truth will always set you free abortion is passing a child into the fire)
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I’ve been totally off Windows for 7 years. What a freaking relief. There’s no software capability I lack.
I run Apache Webserver, MariaDB (MYsql), LibreOffice, Blender, FreeCad, Netbeans, Firefox/Brave/Chrome, Gimp, VLCMedia, Audacity, Musescore, Kicad, Pycharm, eclipse, Filezilla, giimagereader,
etc etc


43 posted on 08/10/2022 1:19:56 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown
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“Adding insult to injury, Microsoft’s data formats can hold programming macros. That’s why Microsoft Office formats are commonly used to transmit malware.”

Yes, this is a security hole. But, it’s also one reasons that businesses LIKE using Microsoft products. If the software doesn’t do what I want, I can write a VB macro and MAKE it do what I want, and I don’t have to pay some additional software license or hire a developer to do it for me.


44 posted on 08/10/2022 1:37:28 PM PDT by Boogieman
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