What do I qualify for?
Posted on 07/25/2022 8:42:13 AM PDT by Brookhaven
A reader writes:
A relative I haven’t spoken to in years is fraudulently applying to my department at a large university. To put it simply, this is a potential Rachael Dolezal situation. “Connie” is applying for a research and teaching position in my department. Her mother was married to my uncle for about 15 years and for 15 years I spent most weekends and every holiday and summer with Connie. We were quite close as kids.
For full clarity: Connie is white. She is not an immigrant, she is not adopted, and both of her parents come from white, American multi-generational wealth. There is not a hospital, museum, or major university in our city without her family name on at least one building. Her mother and my uncle got divorced quite a while ago, but our mothers are still very good friends. Connie and I lost touch as we grew up but reconnected on social media a few years ago.
When we were introduced in the interview, she pretended not to know me. During her team interview with me, two department chairs, and four other faculty, Connie spoke passionately about being a white-passing woman of color who has to confront racism daily, and how her past struggles with an impoverished upbringing as an immigrant in the U.S. have shaped her teaching values. I was speechless the entire time. Her resume is impressive, which makes me concerned she’s been lying to get certain grants/opportunities or that her resume is false.
The two department chairs were very impressed with her, a few people are neutral, and the rest seemed uncomfortable during the interview and passed on notes saying such. How do I approach this? I’m struggling with ethics vs optics: it’s unethical to put Connie forward as a voice for an underrepresented student population and an expert on certain racial and social justice movements and issues. My mentor (an older white male) told me to stay out of it because the optics are poor. I’m white, and I have had a privileged life that allows me to live comfortably on an academic salary. It would look like I’m attacking a candidate based on race in a predominantly white department. Regardless of optics, I would be complicit in this unethical situation if I didn’t say anything and she’s offered the job. So far nobody else has been invited to interview.
Doesn’t the very idea that your place of employment has a job that is taking RACE into consideration at all disturb you even more than your relative trying to lie about hers?
Not excusing your relative, but the fact that employers, are taking race into consideration for positions that have nothing to do with race (not acting, or a restaurant only using people from the nation its food comes from) is fundamentally racist.
“The school can get in trouble for applying for minority grants using a fake minority.“
Why ?
It’s all fake made up stuff .
You call yourself an aardvark if you want, no one can question it.
Are you absolutely sure about that?
Maybe you "feel" Black, or American Indian, or Hispanic. And no one has the right to demand to see your Ariernachweis, after all!
Regards,
From Wikipedia:
In 1890, the state of Louisiana passed the Separate Car Act, which required separate accommodations for blacks and whites on railroads, including separate railway cars. Concerned, a group of prominent black, creole of color, and white creole New Orleans residents formed the Comité des Citoyens (Committee of Citizens) dedicated to repeal the law or fight its effect. They persuaded Homer Plessy, a man of mixed race who was an “octoroon” (person of seven-eighths white and one-eighth black ancestry), to participate in an orchestrated test case. Plessy was born a free man and was a fair-skinned man of color. However, under Louisiana law, he was classified as black, and thus required to sit in the “colored” car.
On June 7, 1892, Plessy bought a first-class ticket at the Press Street Depot and boarded a “Whites Only” car of the East Louisiana Railroad in New Orleans, Louisiana, bound for Covington, Louisiana. The railroad company, which had opposed the law on the grounds that it would require the purchase of more railcars, had been previously informed of Plessy’s racial lineage, and the intent to challenge the law. Additionally, the Comité des Citoyens hired a private detective with arrest powers to detain Plessy, to ensure that he would be charged for violating the Separate Car Act, as opposed to vagrancy or some other offense. After Plessy took a seat in the whites-only railway car, he was asked to vacate it, and sit instead in the blacks-only car. Plessy refused and was arrested immediately by the detective. As planned, the train was stopped, and Plessy was taken off the train at Press and Royal streets. Plessy was remanded for trial in Orleans Parish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plessy_v._Ferguson
“In 2021, the Louisiana Board of Pardons unanimously approved a pardon of Plessy, sending it to Gov. John Bel Edwards for final approval. Edwards granted the pardon on January 5, 2022.”
Who's to say what is "fake?" Maybe the proverbial milkman was colored?
It would be intolerable to demand that anyone submit to, e.g., a blood test to prove his "racial purity" - this is not Nazi Germany, after all.
The mere claim that "I am Black / Asian / American Indian" should be enough!
Regards,
If she’s doing so in writing she needs to stick to objective facts: This person is related to me, for example. Why did she not speak out during the interview about her own conflict of interest? Something very shady going on.
Perhaps he/she/it is simply identifying as “black”. That is okay, even on a job application, right?
Right?
If a biological male identifies as a female, or vice-versa, is ANYONE allowed to contest that in today’s world? Anyone at all?
Why would it be any different for biological race?
This is where the stunted, corrupt, and intellectual processes of the Left lead us.
Madness. Madness.
My wife does genealogy and can trace one of her roots back through England to Spain and then back to the Prophet Muhammad because of the Muslim conquest of Spain.
“You must never assume, because when you assume, you make an ‘ASS’ out of ‘U’ and ‘ME.’”
Benny Hill
https://ask.funtrivia.com/askft/Question24023.html
“In the 1980s President Ronald Reagan adopted the saying, ‘Trust, but verify!’ This was a Russian proverb that a speechwriter wrote into one of Reagan’s speeches to help him connect with the Russians who enjoyed speaking in proverbs.”
https://versesfrommama.com/2016/08/a-lesson-from-ronald-reagan-trust-but-verify/
“simply identifying as ‘black’”
I believe American Indian tribes often insist on a minimum of 1/16th tribal ancestry to be considered a member.
We must defeat racism by becoming racists /s
so why should I care if someone turns the tables on them.....
racism is racism is racism....
I’ve read the tribes require more than that. I don’t think you can join after discovering your ancestry. I think you need a connection to the tribe and traditions.
What do I qualify for?
What are tribal membership requirements?
Tribal enrollment criteria are set forth in tribal constitutions, articles of incorporation or ordinances. The criterion varies from tribe to tribe, so uniform membership requirements do not exist.
Two common requirements for membership are lineal decendency from someone named on the tribe’s base roll or relationship to a tribal member who descended from someone named on the base roll. (A “base roll” is the original list of members as designated in a tribal constitution or other document specifying enrollment criteria.) Other conditions such as tribal blood quantum, tribal residency, or continued contact with the tribe are common.
from:
https://www.doi.gov/tribes/enrollment
Ah. But...doesn’t that run afoul of Leftists who say anyone can be anything if they think they are that thing?
Granted, if there is money involved...they are much more rigorous unless there are citizenship issues involved.
I am a mix of far northwestern European. Some of my ancestors came to America four hundred years ago. The most recent immigrant in my lineage arrived over a hundred years ago. If any dumb ignorant savage wants to tell me to my face that I’m not a native American, I will gladly fill their ears with a few facts about how stupid and weak their ancestors were.
In the early 70’s I saw the indians decimate the salmon fishing in Washington state (See: Judge Boldt Decision - https://www.historylink.org/File/21084 ) and said to myself “If that’s what it takes to be able to go fishing then I’m an injun too!”
This pop-up plagued page has more information I didn’t try hard to read:
https://www.powwows.com/much-percentage-native-american-enroll-tribe/
There are lots of variations.
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