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When did .22 Shorts Become More Expensive than .22 LR?
AmmoLand ^ | July 13, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/23/2022 6:51:31 AM PDT by marktwain

The short answer is: 1987.

.22 Short rimfire cartridges became more expensive than .22 Long Rifle rimfire cartridges in 1987. They have remained more expensive since then.

This correspondent has been able to obtain manufacturer price list information for .22 Shorts from 1911 to 1996, and .22 Long Rifle
ammunition from 1911 to 2022. That is 111 years of pricing history. Of the 111 years, this correspondent was able to collect data for 70 individual years. There are enough data points to give shape to the curve.

There are several ways to measure the value of money, and how it changes over time.

You can choose a particular commodity. Gold has been popular. Determine what an ounce of gold has cost in dollars over time. This was easy when the price of gold was fixed by the US government (the gold standard) from 1789 to 1932, at 20 dollars per troy ounce.

It became dubious from 1934 to 1973-74, because the price was set at $35 per ounce, but you could not legally own gold in the United States.  After 1974, the dollar was completely decoupled from the price of gold, so the dollar prices are readily available.

In 1911, a round of .22 Short cost .625 cents. Gold was 20 dollars an ounce, so a .22 short cost of .0003125 troy ounces of gold. Today, that much gold costs 57.8 cents. Using the same measure, a Long Rifle in 1911 cost .000347 ounces of gold, or 69.4 cents of gold using the price of gold in 2022.

In 2022, a Long Rife cartridge costs about 8 cents, or .000043 ounces of gold at 2022 prices.  The price of a Long Rifle in 2022 is almost exactly 1/8 the amount of gold it costs in 1911.

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In the petroleum age, the cost of ammunition had fallen significantly.

In the last 12 years, it has risen because of demand.

1 posted on 07/23/2022 6:51:31 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Cost of .22 ammo in the price of unskilled labor.

2 posted on 07/23/2022 6:54:14 AM PDT by marktwain
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You ever try the ..22 super Colibri? 20 grain, primer only. Super quiet from a long gun, quieter than a high powered air gun. I like that stuff for around the house.


3 posted on 07/23/2022 6:55:17 AM PDT by Sarcazmo ("Sarcasm is the highest form of wit" ~ O. Wilde)
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To: marktwain

Slow day for writers at ammoland.

Tomorrow: Why does .380 ACP cost more than 9mm?


4 posted on 07/23/2022 6:55:30 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: marktwain

I need both! Along with everything else...


5 posted on 07/23/2022 6:59:20 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Hoes mad! LOL! )
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To: Sarcazmo
You ever try the ..22 super Colibri?

I have a few cartons. Good load for small pests or birds.

6 posted on 07/23/2022 7:00:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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I have not heard of those in a while. I need to look and see. I think I have one of my grandfathers old long rifles. Its a single shot bolt action. It may shoot shorts. I cleaned it a few years ago and it was some kind of dirty. Not like my grandfather, he usually kept his guns clean. He would not like some of the cleaners now. The ones that are cleaners and oil all in one. It was hoppes cleaner and then oil. I think it was rem oil.


7 posted on 07/23/2022 7:07:40 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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I still clean mine that way..


8 posted on 07/23/2022 7:07:58 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: Sarcazmo
I use 22LR with #12 Shot in my modified 22 for plinking chippies when they over run the place.

I put a 14" hand made choke on the end of a 22 and it increases the effective range from 8-10 yards to about twice that distance.

Obviously, with # 12 shot, the closer the better because that stuff is about the size of salt grains.

9 posted on 07/23/2022 7:11:11 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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“Why does .380 ACP cost more than 9mm?”

Funny story. During the reign of the Greatest Arms and Ammunition Salesman EVER, President Obama, I got together twelve people where I worked, and we bought guns and ammo together. For each gun, I got us, usually a few hundred dollars off as I bought twelve. I also bought us each 1,000 rounds of ammo.

However, I could not buy .380 ammo as everyone was tapped out making the more popular 9mm. No matter who I called, it was the same story. Then, I called a small manufacturer in Georgia, if memory serves. I finally got to speak to the floor manager, and I could hear the machines “kerchunking” around him. He told me, no, they wouldn’t be making any .380 for the foreseeable future.

I said, “I need 12,000 rounds and I’m happy to pay your 9mm price.”
He said, “I’ll ship it Friday.”
It all arrived stamped, “9mm Luger.” So, they ran it that night, but they didn’t change the dies.

When the UPS guy dragged it from the truck he said, while huffing, “Are you ordering lead bars?”
“Sort of.”
“You’re breaking my back, you know.”


10 posted on 07/23/2022 7:14:25 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: marktwain

It is called absorption cost accounting.

Fixed set up cost of a machine for 1,000 production run. Is expensive in terms of number of rounds.

Fixed set up cost of a machine for 1,000,000 round cost much less per round.

If you run same setup for a year is cheaper than if you only run it 2 weeks.


11 posted on 07/23/2022 7:15:23 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: USS Alaska
I put a 14" hand made choke on the end of a 22 and it increases the effective range from 8-10 yards to about twice that distance.

Works pretty well.

12 posted on 07/23/2022 7:15:24 AM PDT by marktwain
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I have a 1958 Mossberg 144LS Rifle, and its 5-round mag takes shorts or longs. I can’t remember using shorts in it, ever.


13 posted on 07/23/2022 7:16:56 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Sarcazmo

“You ever try the ..22 super Colibri? 20 grain, primer only. Super quiet from a long gun, quieter than a high powered air gun. “

In a long barreled bolt rifle it makes very little noise.


14 posted on 07/23/2022 7:17:02 AM PDT by dljordan (a)
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To: Gen.Blather
I said, “I need 12,000 rounds and I’m happy to pay your 9mm price.” He said, “I’ll ship it Friday.”

Great story.

15 posted on 07/23/2022 7:17:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; Sarcazmo

Sounds like the old BB Cap, with a heavier bullet - a CB Cap with no powder. Fun pest rounds that are pretty tough to find.


16 posted on 07/23/2022 7:19:47 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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I actually have a box of CB caps around here somewhere. Don’t remember what I paid for them.

L


17 posted on 07/23/2022 7:22:50 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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“You ever try the ..22 super Colibri? 20 grain, primer only. Super quiet from a long gun, quieter than a high powered air gun.

In a long barreled bolt rifle it makes very little noise.

I have had a couple stick in a 28" barreled rifle.

18 posted on 07/23/2022 7:24:22 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Texas Fossil
It is called absorption cost accounting.

I figured it was an example of economies of scale.

19 posted on 07/23/2022 7:35:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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My friends think I kinda eccentric because I usually practice slow fire revolver shooting with shorts. I pay more for a brick of shorts but it uses up less lead they are accurate. I’ll set up a four by five-foot cardboard at 100 yards and put a human silhouette target on it. With my old Colt Buntline Scout I’ll score six out of six on the target but of course it is a BIG target AND I’m sandbagging my revolver. But the shorts print about as well as standard or high velocity 22 LRs.

With offhand shooting I can do better with an old Cold Police Positive 38 Special with a 4-inch barrel than with my Ruger Redhawk 44 magnum (loaded mild) with its 2X Leopold and its nine and half inch barrel ... but sandbagged the Redhawk is supreme.


20 posted on 07/23/2022 7:41:54 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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