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Some here on FR made that same distinction last eek.....................
1 posted on 07/22/2022 11:19:20 AM PDT by Red Badger
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… but it may no longer be there


2 posted on 07/22/2022 11:23:24 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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Yeah, Science is when Theory delivers repeatable Experimental Results, and it takes some time to design an unbiased Experiment to test a Theory.

Speed, Distance, Time and Relativity all influence the the Testing Experiment, and it takes a while to study them in their relation to the Object in question.

In the meantime someone may use a possibly incorrect term in describing that Object.

4 posted on 07/22/2022 11:36:08 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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How do we know that this “red blob” self-identifies as a galaxy?


5 posted on 07/22/2022 11:37:35 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Semantics. The image of the galaxy is very young because of how long it took for the light to travel here, but the galaxy itself, at this very moment in time, is one of the oldest.
6 posted on 07/22/2022 11:42:42 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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Fun fact: Not only are you at the exact center of the universe (Sorry, Galileo, you were right about Aristotle being wrong, but Cardinal Nicolas Di Cusa was closer), but you are at the very oldest part of the universe. It’s a consequence of relativity. Since the entire world is traveling away from you at a speed proportional to its distance from you, the further you imagine being from where you are now, the more the effects of traveling quickly have prevented the matter at that place from aging.

“Ah,” you say, “but if I went there FASTER than the speed of light!” and I finish off your sentence, “you’d be going backwards in time to when the universe was younger!” “But what if I just materialized there?” Congratulations! You’d be at an older part of the universe... but only because from your perspective, our part of the universe would be at some point in our distant past.

But what if I kept some sort of magic link where Earthperson and I were billions of light years apart? Each of you would perceive the link as coming from the distant future, at a point that was rushing away from the other so quickly that the age of that distant end would be surpassed due to its aging less quickly due to it flying away so quickly.

It always seems like saying you’re at the oldest, most central point of the universe is just some trick that could be conquered by some impossible magic.... but it’s always another impossibly magic task to find somewhere in the universe that’s older.


7 posted on 07/22/2022 11:48:44 AM PDT by dangus
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The Webb telescope sensors record data which is analyzed in computers programmed with software that feature alogarithims written by scientists with preconceived notions. the images ultimately seen are not actual photos but computer generated images.


8 posted on 07/22/2022 11:50:42 AM PDT by allendale
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The oldest galaxy is called Pelosi.


9 posted on 07/22/2022 11:55:34 AM PDT by entropy12 (Trump & MAGA are the only way to keep USA viable.)
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We’ve been told that, because the universe is expanding, the farther out we look, the older the objects are. It’s wwrong. If the universe started with the big bang then everything we see is the same age, but with one caveat. Because light takes time to get here the farther away an observed object is, the younger the object appears.

The nearest objects are the oldest ones we can observe, and we don’t need fancier telescopes for doing that.


13 posted on 07/22/2022 12:28:07 PM PDT by nagant
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Looks like Star Trek found this one first.

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14 posted on 07/22/2022 12:33:57 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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The oldest galaxy is in the Japanese quadrant....


19 posted on 07/22/2022 3:32:23 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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