In my view this is misuse of data.
If most people are vaccinated, then most that die (no matter how small a number that is) will of course have been vaccinated.
And if comorbidities and age are factors that increase the relative rate of vaccination, then these exact same factors contribute to mortality, so of course we expect to see higher “vaxxed” deaths. The vaxxed population is riskier than average, before vaxxing.
Of course, the bar graphs are in purple! That has to mean something.
If the point is that vaxxing is relatively inefficacious, then I’m totally open to seeing data that is germane to that hypothesis. This doesn’t seem to be that.
In fact I think we all suspect that vaxxing is not as effective as one would hope/expect. Just how effective is it? Now that is worth an analysis.
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The article states that 50% refused the third shot, so there is a 50/50 split of the population between 3 or more and 2 or less.
But nothing on age or comorbidities.
Yeah if people are dying from covid shots I guess you could say they are ineffective.
####In my view this is misuse of data.
If most people are vaccinated, then most that die (no matter how small a number that is) will of course have been vaccinated.####
The main point, regardless of what you state, the vaccine isn’t doing anything and at worst, it’s creating more problems or possibly a negative efficacy concern the more you’re vaccinated.
Thanks! You are correct. Given that the older age group is much more sensitive to the virus, it is necessary to give data for age (and if available also co-morbidities) before comparing “vaxxed” and “unvaxxed”.
There are reasons to believe that the vaccines are not as effective as hoped for. Also, the net effect on younger people is probably negative (ie the positive protection vs the side effects). But these questions must be analyzed properly.
I don’t think it’s misuse of data, rather than a look at some suggestive data that should motivate the world to slow their roll and take a very close look at what’s going on.
It could be that the triple vaxes are all concentrated in nursing homes, because they were given no choice. Or it could be that is not the case and this stuff is killing people. We need to find out.
But if the govt of UK noticed this and didn’t identify a cause (just left it to us to speculate)... that is suggestive in itself.
[[Just how effective is it? Now that is worth an analysis.]]
There was a statement while back, cant temember whk said it, might eve. Have been the cdc, that stated it was only about 14% or so effective in preventing death.
That said, if these were truly vaccines meant to "prevent" COVID, by any measure they are failing, and in some cases making the situation worse for the younger portion of the population.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled UK Government confirms the Triple / Quadruple Vaccinated account for 91% of all COVID Deaths since the beginning of 2022 , Strident wrote: |
In my view this is misuse of data. If most people are vaccinated, then most that die (no matter how small a number that is) will of course have been vaccinated. And if comorbidities and age are factors that increase the relative rate of vaccination, then these exact same factors contribute to mortality, so of course we expect to see higher “vaxxed” deaths. The vaxxed population is riskier than average, before vaxxing. Of course, the bar graphs are in purple! That has to mean something. If the point is that vaxxing is relatively inefficacious, then I’m totally open to seeing data that is germane to that hypothesis. This doesn’t seem to be that. In fact I think we all suspect that vaxxing is not as effective as one would hope/expect. Just how effective is it? Now that is worth an analysis. |
"If most people are vaccinated, then most that die (no matter how small a number that is) will of course have been vaccinated."
Only for fake Covid 'vaccines'. For example, if most people have had the polio vaccine, then most people who get polio (no matter how small that number is) will NOT have been vaccinated. All the rules and logic have to be turned inside out to make it seem like the Covid 'vaccines' are 'safe and effective'.
"The vaxxed population is riskier than average, before vaxxing."
Not as much as portrayed, given that 5 year olds, all their teachers, professional athletes, healthcare workers, so many who want to keep their jobs or attend school etc. are required to get the Covid 'vaccine.'
"In fact I think we all suspect that vaxxing is not as effective as one would hope/expect."
Even Fauci has admitted that the 'vaccines' had severe dropoff of efficacy following the 6 - 8 weeks of trials. After that trial period, well vaccinated people started getting sick with Covid and 'efficacy' rates dropped, dropped, dropped etc. to the point now where almost no one believes the lie that the 'vaccines' are 'safe and effective'.
For those who just want a quick look st a graph, there is an easy to read one from Statista, but it only covers Jan 1, 2021 through January 31, 2022:
Number of deaths involving COVID-19 in England as of January 31, 2022, by vaccination status and age
Text underneath: "Between January 1, 2021 and January 31, 2022, there were approximately 25.7 thousand deaths involving COVID-19 among 80 to 89 year olds in England, with almost 14 thousand deaths occurring among unvaccinated people in this age group. Across all the age groups in the provided time interval, deaths involving COVID-19 among the unvaccinated population was around 2.5 times more than the amount of people who received at least two doses of a vaccine."
You can read about deaths by vaccination status on the UK government website here: here
And here: here
For those who want numbers, you can download them in XL format here
More info re vaccine effectiveness on UK government site here:
Unvaccinated patients remained more likely to be admitted to critical care with COVID-1
To see vaccination rates by age, scroll on down to graph titled "Younger people were less likely to have received a third COVID-19 vaccination --Percentage of people who reported receiving a third COVID-19 vaccination by age, from 21 February to 20 March 2022"