[Gaffer]

I actually worked inside NCMC (NOTAD Cheyenne Mountain Complex) in the early 70s. They have blast doors inside that granite mountain that are just as strong. TWO of them, in fact, with a space between to move a bus in to enter the open-close-open-close sequence. We actually had to ride a bus from the outer turnstiles where wallet badges were exchanged for interior badges to even get to the inner doors.

We were all told that when the complex was built when Russian missile targeting wasn’t that accurate and that at least 15-30 minutes of survivability was all that was needed to use the ring-and-spoke C&C system to direct a nuclear response. Offutt AFB (B-52s), multiple outer ‘spoke’ sites with missiles, etc. and the like. None of us who would be caught inside when it hit expected to do anything but maybe survive for 30 days or so. Today? Targeting would demolish the entire complex in one hit, IMO.

The ONE thing that Russians had/have going for it for its citizens is that US targeting normally wouldn’t be targeting mass population centers (but, with Democrats in control I’m not so confident of that now).

About all I can say is that the command structure of this country now is replete with nothing but scum looking out for themselves.

[Alas Babylon!]

Hey Gaffer, when were you there?

I was there from 1976 through 1979.

Worked in the Philco computer center. Delta, 425L (fornicator) and Offline, then up in the MEBU with the Univac 1106 and 1100/40...

[null and void]

About all I can say is that the command structure of this country now is replete with nothing but scum looking out for themselves.

All the way to the very top.

[GOPJ]

We were all told that when the complex was built when Russian missile targeting wasn’t that accurate and that at least 15-30 minutes of survivability was all that was needed to use the ring-and-spoke C&C system to direct a nuclear response. Offutt AFB (B-52s), multiple outer ‘spoke’ sites with missiles, etc. and the like. None of us who would be caught inside when it hit expected to do anything but maybe survive for 30 days or so. Today? Targeting would demolish the entire complex in one hit, IMO.What are the odds there wouldn't be time to respond?

[GOPJ]

We were all told that when the complex was built when Russian missile targeting wasn’t that accurate and that at least 15-30 minutes of survivability was all that was needed to use the ring-and-spoke C&C system to direct a nuclear response. Offutt AFB (B-52s), multiple outer ‘spoke’ sites with missiles, etc. and the like. None of us who would be caught inside when it hit expected to do anything but maybe survive for 30 days or so. Today? Targeting would demolish the entire complex in one hit, IMO.

What are the odds there wouldn't be time to respond?

[FarCenter]

US targeting normally wouldn’t be targeting mass population centers

The Russians might not target NYC population as well.

But I'd think that in the first 20 minutes or so, MIRV'd SLBMs would destroy Joint Base McGuire, Naval Weapons Station Earle, NYSE data centers in NJ, etc.

And they might target the Fed on Maiden Lane, Manhattan.