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Physical therapy noninferior to arthroscopic surgery for meniscal tear
Medical Xpress / HealthDay / JAMA Network Open ^ | July 8, 2022 | Julia C. A. Noorduyn, MSc, Victor A. van de Graaf, MD, PhD et al

Posted on 07/10/2022 10:15:37 AM PDT by ConservativeMind

Exercise-based physical therapy is noninferior to arthroscopic partial meniscectomy for patient-reported knee function at five years among patients with a degenerative meniscal tear, according to a study published online July 8 in JAMA Network Open.

Julia C.A. Noorduyn and colleagues compared the five-year effectiveness of arthroscopic partial meniscectomy and exercise-based physical therapy in 321 patients aged 45 to 70 years with a degenerative meniscal tear. Participants were randomly assigned to arthroscopic partial meniscectomy or 16 sessions of exercise-based physical therapy; 87.1 percent competed the five-year follow-up (mean follow-up, 61.8 months).

The researchers found that mean improvement was 29.6 and 25.1 points on the International Knee Documentation Committee Subjective Knee Form in the surgery and physical therapy groups, respectively, from baseline to follow-up. There was a 3.5-point crude between-group difference (95 percent confidence interval, 0.7 to 6.3 points; P < 0.001 for noninferiority); the 95 percent confidence interval did not exceed the 11-point noninferiority threshold. Rates of progression of radiographic-demonstrated knee osteoarthritis were comparable between both treatment groups.

"Findings from this trial further support the recommendation that exercise-based physical therapy should be the preferred treatment over surgery for degenerative meniscal tear," the authors write.

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I don’t think this would hold for other areas on the body, but my guess is that the special attachment of the knee makes meniscectomy less effective.
1 posted on 07/10/2022 10:15:37 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 07/10/2022 10:19:25 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Who funded this research? Some sort of Physical Therapy Industrial group? See link below.

https://lmtribune.com/opinion/opinion-there-is-no-such-thing-as-evidence-based-medicine/article_5213a895-abb2-5a0b-875c-d3209c2cae52.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share

3 posted on 07/10/2022 10:25:41 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Buffalo Head)
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To: ConservativeMind

I tore my meniscus 10 or 15 years ago due to overloading the knee on a leg press machine in the gym. A couple weeks after that overloading, we were on our first day of vacation visiting my uncle in Twin Falls, Idaho. I stepped out of the car and my knee just about collapsed. The pain was excruciating, probably the worst I’ve experienced.

With the help of a sports medicine doctor, I used an exercise program to recover and, to my surprise, it worked. No surgery. I’m almost 71 now and my knee seems to be fine, but I’m always wary of a relapse.

“almost 71” — egads, how did THAT happen?


4 posted on 07/10/2022 10:27:19 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’ve had partial tears in both menisci. Similar to you, I had a total knee collapse when I was in my early 20s. I blacked out from the pain and woke up in an ambulance.

20 years later, no surgeries, I can run and jump without pain. When I do have an occasional tweak in either knee, following the good old RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation) strategy works just fine.


5 posted on 07/10/2022 10:43:13 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“almost 71” — egads, how did THAT happen?

You find a way to stop/slow it , I'm all ears.

6 posted on 07/10/2022 10:50:15 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Noah was called a conspiracy theorist by CNN . . . and then it rained.)
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To: ConservativeMind

I tried to play racket ball about two months ago. First time I slammed into a wall with my shoulder. at age 69 nothing heals anymore. now I have what seems like a permanent pain in my shoulder. wish I knew how to get rid of it.


7 posted on 07/10/2022 11:35:29 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: ConservativeMind

I did have that surgery in my knee about 5 years ago, due to a torn meniscus, also using a sports medicine doctor. He cut out the ripped part and so far its been great. And no, he didn’t recommend exercises or rehab.


8 posted on 07/10/2022 11:43:02 AM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: ConservativeMind

Do what you want, but I had a partial tear with excruciating pain for over a year.
I got the surgery and have not had a problem since - 13 years later.

Meniscus tissue does not heal. PT may mask it for a while, butyoustill have a tear.


9 posted on 07/10/2022 12:29:57 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: ckilmer

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10 posted on 07/10/2022 12:41:28 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ConservativeMind
"Exercise-based physical therapy is equal or better noninferior to arthroscopic partial meniscectomy.." Nobody uses the term "noninferior" "
11 posted on 07/10/2022 1:06:16 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: BipolarBob

Avoid surgery works...up to a point.


12 posted on 07/10/2022 1:17:47 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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My wife had the arthroscopic surgery on both knees about 15 years ago and it worked out really well for her. No subsequent issues. She plays a lot of pickleball now, too.


13 posted on 07/10/2022 1:19:35 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: ConservativeMind
Not even sure how I did it, I tore the meniscus in my right knee. Tried PT for six weeks, had to have my knee drained 4x.

Two doctors at the same practice that repaired my lower back 4x told me there was no way PT was going to heal my knee and I needed surgical intervention. Had the surgery, less than two weeks later was perfectly fine, walking like normal, no pain.

BTW: I'm a complete advocate for physical therapy and natural healing, letting the body do it's thing to heal. That works for some, doesn't for others (I fall into that camp, sadly.)

14 posted on 07/10/2022 1:22:31 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Evel Knievel had a misfortune in Twin Falls also!


15 posted on 07/10/2022 1:25:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

Yeah, and mine was a LOT worse than his!

You can still see his ramp to this day.


16 posted on 07/10/2022 4:57:20 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“No subsequent issues. She plays a lot of pickleball now, too.”

That’s GREAT for her! I tried playing basketball a few years ago, would up taking a couple of days to return to normal, so I’m more cautious.


17 posted on 07/10/2022 5:31:00 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: BobL

Thanks. She used to be a good tennis player, but age caught up. Pickleball is a GREAT substitute for septuagenarians (even though she just barely qualifies for that rubric). The outdoor courts are open at our club here in North Idaho and there’s nothing like playing early in the morning on sunny summer mornings!


18 posted on 07/10/2022 5:54:07 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“...see whether we in our day and generation may not perform something worthy to be remembered.”)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Good to hear!!


19 posted on 07/10/2022 7:35:27 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
“almost 71” — egads, how did THAT happen?

"How terribly strange to be 70" -Old Friends/Simon & Garfunkel

20 posted on 07/11/2022 1:49:04 PM PDT by spankalib
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