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Retreat from Kyiv, a bridge too far in Donbas, and the sinking of the Moskva: Fleeing from Snake Island is just the latest in a long line of humiliating defeats for Russia's army in Ukraine
Daily Mail ^ | 7/1/2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 07/01/2022 10:48:44 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

A 'gesture of goodwill': That was how the Kremlin tried to play off its retreat from Ukraine's Snake Island on Thursday, after commanders gave up hope of holding the strategic spit of land under withering artillery fire.

It is the same phrase that Putin's lackeys used to try and cover up their ignominious retreat from Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy back in early April, as the first phase of their war in Ukraine spectacularly failed.

But those are far from the only battlefield blunders to have left Russia's red army red-faced: From an early defeat trying to take Hostomel airfield to failed river crossings in the Donbas and the sinking of flagship Moskva, there have been plenty of embarrassing moments for Putin and his commanders.

Here, MailOnline takes a look back at all the defeats that have shamed what was once considered to be the world's second-best military...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: marcusmaximus

You need to get out of your mom’s basement. It’s a nice day outside.


61 posted on 07/01/2022 2:42:13 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: propelkrayon
And America lost to Afghanistan LOL

Well, we haven't "won" anything since 1945.

62 posted on 07/01/2022 2:43:15 PM PDT by montag813
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To: propelkrayon
Did we win in Afghanistan and I just got the wrong news?

Mouthy little n00b, aren’t you? And who is ‘we?’ Were you there?

Your boy Biden and his puppeteers, Obama and ValJar are responsible for that debacle in Afghanistan.

Let me give you a hint: people on this site (aside from foreign trolls) don’t support the Biden crime syndicate.

63 posted on 07/01/2022 3:18:21 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: marcusmaximus
https://sonar21.com/even-the-uks-sky-news-is-reporting-on-the-ukrainian-debacle-in-the-donbas/

Remember when Ukrainian President Volodomyr Zelinsky said in early June that the war in the Donbas hinged on what happens to Severodonetsk?

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Wednesday the “fierce” battle for the city of Severodonetsk was probably one of the most difficult of the war, and its outcome will decide the fate of eastern Ukraine.

Why it matters: Severodonetsk is the last remaining major city in the Luhansk region of the Donbas under Ukrainian control.

Well, Ukraine ordered its forces to retreat and Russia has taken full control of Severodonetsk.

everodonetsk Mayor Oleksandr Stryuk announced to Ukrainian television on Saturday afternoon that the Russians had taken control of the entire city.

This came two days after the announcement Ukrainian army He withdrew from the city, which had a population of 100,000 before the Russian military operation, with the aim of better defending its neighbor Lyschansk, according to AFP.

Sky News is reporting on the appalling Ukrainian losses. I am surprised by their candor:

Ukraine war: 80% of troops killed or injured in elite military unit>{? https://youtu.be/UH2tiIx22u4

If you can imagine losing 80% of the 82nd Airborne or 80% of Delta Force, then you can understand the horrible significance of these losses for Ukraine’s ability to field a competent fighting force. Reinforcing depleted units with untrained men is not a solution. Plugging untrained war bodies into formerly elite units does not translate into a force capable of fighting effectively. The art of unit war includes knowing how to maneuver under fire, how to set ambushes, how to establish fields of fires, how to communicate with headquarters and how to clean and maintain weapons in the midst of combat. Ukrainian men press ganged into the Ukrainian Army during the past 10 weeks cannot be trained in such a short period of time to master these skills.

Some die hard neo-cons continue to manifest their ignorance of military affairs by pointing to Russia’s slow progress in taking Severodonetsk as evidence of Russia’s incompetent, weak army. What they fail to understand is that Russia was trying to avoid killing the civilians still inside Severodonetsk, who were being used as human shields by the Ukrainians. Putin and the Russian commanders are placing a higher value on saving civilians rather than unleashing their full military might in order to show the world what they can really do. This is a remarkably mature military strategy.

64 posted on 07/01/2022 3:29:35 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: propelkrayon

I’m not a neocon, you stupid foreign troll.

And if you weren’t such a dumbass n00b, you’d know that I disdain the ukrainiacs and their corrupt idol Zelensky and frequently take that set of trolls to task.

Go crawl back under your rock, you idiot.


66 posted on 07/01/2022 4:55:11 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: Travis McGee

Major General John R. Evans Jr. celebrates “The Beast With Two Backs” Month in the US Army with a new flag! [not fag!]


67 posted on 07/01/2022 9:52:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: propelkrayon

*June 22 2022* !

We’ve got an anti-American noob here! Did you sign up to attack our country?? Or are you just another RuSSian troll??

Even if this photo were true (it isn’t), there is nothing for RuSSia to be proud of. It was/is a totalitarian despotic country who systematically murdered millions and snuffed out the rights of the individual just the same as Nazi Germany. How many millions locked up and starved/worked to death in the gulags? How many did the czars slaughter? Germany=Russa=pot=meet=kettle.

Sick nation and those who defend/celebrate it are even sicker.


68 posted on 07/02/2022 3:53:43 AM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: Kazan

Kherson was a feint! LOL!


69 posted on 07/02/2022 7:21:25 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus
FYI...Ukraine is getting its ass kicked. Russia is closer to completely liberating the DPR and LPR:

: https://sonar21.com/russia-grinds-on-and-ukraine-chases-a-squirrel/

RUSSIA GRINDS ON AND UKRAINE CHASES A SQUIRREL
1 July 2022 by Larry Johnson

Russia is closing the cauldron and Ukrainian troops are making desperate attempts to flee to Siversk. Russia has fire control over the roads and Ukrainians who try to escape on those roads face annihilation. The Russian Minister of Defense reported that 6000 Ukrainian troops are captive (no breakdown re how many have been nabbed from the Lysychansk operation). Not an inconsequential number.

It is important to note that Russia took care not to destroy the Lysychansk oil refinery, which reportedly was a main supply of fuel to the Ukrainian forces in the Donbas. Loss of that site means that Ukraine will have to find an alternative source of fuel. This means longer lines of resupply just to keep Ukrainian military vehicles still in the region fueled and operational. Not an easy task.

Although many western analysts stick doggedly to their tale that Russia is taking a beating and that Russia is too weak to oust the Ukrainian forces, the reality is otherwise. Russia continues to consolidate its control over the Donbas. In contrast to the Alamo stand of Ukraine’s AZOV battalion in Mariupol, Ukrainian troops are not complying with NATO’s wish that they fight to the last Ukrainian. Instead, they are fleeing west as best they can, running a gauntlet of Russian artillery and air strikes. It looks like the next main target for Russia in this part of the Donbas will be Siversk.

The only piece of land Ukraine has “retaken” is Snake Island. Not clear yet if Ukraine’s military leaders have decided to put a force on the island, but God help them if they do. Russia’s withdrawal, despite the Russian Minister of Defense’s claim that this move was to counter Ukraine’s excuses for not exporting grain through the Black Sea, was simply a cost/benefit decision.

Resupplying Snake Island was a logistical waste. Russia could have continued to funnel ammunition and missiles needed to operate air defense systems on the island. But that is a costly investment of resources for a rock that only has symbolic importance in the eyes of the Ukrainians. It is easier and cheaper for the Russians to hit the floating rock with its missiles. Any Ukrainian deployed on that small terrain will be a sitting duck. It has zero strategic value for Russia’s task of demilitarizing the Donbas.

To underscore this point, here is the Russian Minister of Defense’s briefing on attacking Ukrainian military sites inside and outside the Donbas:

High-precision attacks launched by Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed 2 command posts, 5 munitions depots near Ivano-Daryevka, Seversk (Donetsk People’s Republic), Belogorovka (Lugansk People’s Republic), Nikolayev, Lepetikha (Nikolayev region), as well as AFU manpower and military equipment in 26 areas.

Within the counter-battery warfare, high-precision attacks launched by Russian Aerospace Forces have neutralised 2 MRLS plattoons and 2 artillery plattoons near Lesovka, Selidovo and Netaylovo that had been shelling the settlements of the Donetsk People’s Republic.

Operational-tactical and army aviation, missile troops and artillery have neutralised: 32 AFU command posts, 1 radar designed for detecting air targets near Katranka (Odessa region), 3 munitions depots near Spornoye (Donetsk People’s Republic), as well as manpower and military equipment in 297 areas.

70 posted on 07/02/2022 8:58:33 AM PDT by Kazan
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