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Why Democrats probably won’t get rid of the filibuster for abortion
The Washington Post ^ | 5/5/22 | Amber Phillips

Posted on 06/26/2022 1:39:13 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Though the conservative Supreme Court appears poised to strike down Roe v. Wade, Democrats control slim majorities in both chambers of Congress, and they have a president in the White House supportive of abortion rights. They also have public opinion on their side. But one thing stops them from passing a federal law protecting abortion rights and codifying Roe into law: the filibuster.

The filibuster is a Senate rule that requires 60 votes to pass most legislation. Most controversial legislation is passed on party-line votes these days, and it’s very rare for parties to have 60 senators. Democrats only have 50 right now.

Here’s what the filibuster means for federal abortion rights — and how it could be manipulated by either side.

Will Democrats get rid of the filibuster to pass abortion protections? Probably not.

In the Senate, Republicans can and will stop Democrats from codifying abortion rights. They already did so with a bill Democrats voted on in February.

Democrats can get rid of the filibuster, or make a carve-out for abortion-related issues, with just a majority vote. After Politico published a draft Supreme Court opinion indicating that Roe will be overturned later this spring, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) almost immediately called for Democrats to do that

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To: MinorityRepublican
The Dems simply DON'T have the votes to kill the filibuster.
They couldn't even get the votes to pass Dementia Joe's terrible Build Back Better.
21 posted on 06/26/2022 2:55:08 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: MinorityRepublican
The federal government is one of enumerated powers. The feds need to hang their hate on one of the limited powers set forth in the Constitution.

Roe v Wade was based on "due process" clauses of the 5th and 14th Amendment. SCOTUS just ruled in Dodds that there is no right to an abortion based on the due process clauses of the 5th and 14th Amendment.

So, if there is no due process basis for the feds to regulate abortion, then the feds would have to base any broad nation-wide law on one of the enumerated powers. I don't see what that could be.

The usual go-to enumerated power is the Commerce Clause, but seriously? Maybe Congress could regulate interstate travel to procure an abortion or maybe prevent the interstate trade in abortofacients, but I see no way for Congress to broadly codify a right to an abortion on the federal level as San Fran Nan and others seem to want.

22 posted on 06/26/2022 3:01:12 PM PDT by Thilly Thailor
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To: MinorityRepublican

Worked out so well for them on judges.


23 posted on 06/26/2022 3:07:04 PM PDT by pas
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To: lurk

They have no support for killing children after heartbeat or when the child can feel pain. Their agenda became so extreme, they overreached. Just like AOC wanting to talk about rape exceptions. They play all kinds of hopscotch on the issue.

And young people are so conditioned to birth control and less frequent deliveries they don’t like abortion the way the boomer women did.


24 posted on 06/26/2022 3:17:04 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Mr. K

And California and pre last election Virginia were hinting at post-birth abortion in the “perinatal” period up to three weeks after birth and hinting at one year after.


25 posted on 06/26/2022 3:18:55 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe \)
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To: mlo

Tenth Amendment.


26 posted on 06/26/2022 3:19:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The political Dem problem with Federally legislating unlimited abortion up to the 9th month is as strong a national majority is against late term abortions as the national majority that is against zero abortion. The hispanic vote they thought they would be controlling for eternity and are now watching slip away is very much opposed to the late term extremes. It is the white progressive elites and some Blacks, whose votes the Dems already own, that are driving this effort. Why jeopardize their standing with Hispanics to pander to a vote they already own?


27 posted on 06/26/2022 3:39:49 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: MinorityRepublican
Why Democrats probably won’t get rid of the filibuster for abortion

What idiot thinks federal legislation could affect the abortion judgment even to the nth degree?

28 posted on 06/26/2022 4:19:42 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Why did you want to post an old article?   Was there a special point that you wanted to point out?
29 posted on 06/26/2022 4:25:32 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: DallasBiff

OK, never mind.


30 posted on 06/26/2022 4:26:39 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Are there any other Dem Senators other than Manchin that are pro-life? I would think there were a few out there.


31 posted on 06/26/2022 4:27:30 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: Thilly Thailor

They would likely fall back on the commerce clause. Working women having or not having children impact the workforce and therefore interstate commerce. There is other legislation that has been passed on flimsier connections to that clause that so far are still law.


32 posted on 06/26/2022 4:30:02 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: higgmeister
Why did you want to post an old article? Was there a special point that you wanted to point out?

What's the next move for the Rats? A topic worthy of discussion. Still relevant even though the article is two months old. The leak was two months old. Everyone knew that Roe vs Wade is history.

33 posted on 06/26/2022 4:41:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: mlo
Because the Constitution is silent on Abortion, it is not in the Federal purview.
The Tenth Amendment — The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
If it is not mentioned in the Constitution it belongs to the States or we the people.
34 posted on 06/26/2022 4:54:43 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Luke21

Excellent points.


35 posted on 06/26/2022 5:06:17 PM PDT by mairdie (Trump - Nessun Dorma, from Puccini's Turandot - Luciano Pavarotti - https://youtu.be/MigUKGKr-nQ)
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To: MinorityRepublican

You mean how Republicans stopped the latest gun control bill?


36 posted on 06/26/2022 5:30:07 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: gunnut
I suppose you're right. The Wickard case (1942) would support that view. Maybe that will be the next SCOTUS case - does the Commerce Clause support broad federal regulation of abortion? I'll bet SCOTUS as it's now constituted would say no.
37 posted on 06/27/2022 7:26:50 AM PDT by Thilly Thailor
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To: gleeaikin

Are you unaware of “partial-birth abortion”


38 posted on 06/27/2022 10:04:26 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: mlo

A federal law prohibiting the States to prohibit baby-killing would seem to violate the 10th Amendment,


39 posted on 06/27/2022 10:08:30 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: gunnut

Manchin, who has been wailing and gnashing his teeth over Dobbs, is NOT “pro-life”.


40 posted on 06/27/2022 10:10:59 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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