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1 posted on 06/18/2022 3:00:56 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

Who could have seen this coming?

You mean, they’ve been lying? What’s warfare coming too these days?


2 posted on 06/18/2022 3:06:34 PM PDT by pingman ("I ain't in no ways tarred.." of WINNING!)
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To: Cathi

The Ukes should have emulated George Patton - “ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!”


3 posted on 06/18/2022 3:13:22 PM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe z)
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To: Cathi

This will not age well...


4 posted on 06/18/2022 3:23:01 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: Cathi

The article is from Douglas MacGregor, who is unabashedly pro-Russia, and is seen by many of his contemporaries as a hot-head and a loose cannon (which probably explains why he was passed up for promotion from colonel to brigadier three times in a row, thus pretty much ending his military career). He said the USMC is obsolete and its existence is no longer justified; ditto on the Army’s airborne corps. He has called for the summary executions of illegal border crossers.

This guy is a darling of late-night radio talk shows. There are many on FR who swear by him (hence his attributions on FR). I, however, am not one of them. Though I don’t summarily dismiss him, I do remain very skeptical of anything he says.


5 posted on 06/18/2022 3:28:15 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Cathi

No, I refuse to believe it. Our institutions would never lie to us like that.

/s


6 posted on 06/18/2022 3:29:34 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: Cathi; Lurker; BobL

7 posted on 06/18/2022 3:29:57 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cathi

And still the foolish freepers cheering on Ukraine continue to post their rah-rah crap. Critical thinking skills are in short supply everywhere, it seems.


12 posted on 06/18/2022 3:38:52 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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To: Cathi

He’s just a Putin puppet (along with 80 million or so other Americans).


13 posted on 06/18/2022 3:39:36 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Cathi

Unlike Biden, Hoover did not sell out his country for personal bribes.

No president in US history did that.

Benedict Arnold did in the American Revolution.

Quisling did in Norway during WWII.

No other instance comes to mind, but I’m sure they exist. But not in the USA.


16 posted on 06/18/2022 5:02:54 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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Douglas Macgregor's Anti-Semitism Has a Long History

17 posted on 06/18/2022 5:24:58 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Douglas Macgregor's anti-Semitic comments disqualify him from serving at the Pentagon
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/douglas-macgregors-anti-semitic-comments-disqualify-him-from-serving-at-the-pentagon

18 posted on 06/18/2022 5:29:43 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Cathi

Months ago, MacGregor repeatedly, wrongfully said that the Russians would stop the Ukrainian Army within days. He’s incompetent and loyal to Russia.


19 posted on 06/18/2022 5:32:58 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Don’t Let Russia Fool You About the Minsk Agreements
CEPA
Kurt Volker
December 16, 2021
https://cepa.org/dont-let-russia-fool-you-about-the-minsk-agreements/

[Excerpt:]

1. There are two Minsk Agreements, not just one. The first “Minsk Protocol” was signed on September 5, 2014. It mainly consists of a commitment to a ceasefire along the existing line of contact, which Russia never respected. By February 2015, fighting had intensified to a level that led to renewed calls for a ceasefire, and ultimately led to the second Minsk Agreement, signed on February 12, 2015. Even after this agreement, Russian-led forces kept fighting and took the town of Debaltseve six days later. The two agreements are cumulative, building on each other, rather than the second replacing the first. This is important in understanding the importance, reflected in the first agreement, of an immediate ceasefire and full monitoring by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), including on the Ukraine-Russia border, as fundamental to the subsequent package of agreements.

2. Russia is a Party to the Minsk Agreements. The original Minsk signatories are Russia, Ukraine, and the OSCE. Russia is a protagonist in the war in Ukraine and is fully obliged to follow the deal’s terms. Despite that, however, Russia untruthfully claims not to be a party and only a facilitator — and that the real agreements are between Ukraine and the so-called “separatists,” who call themselves the Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples’ Republics (LPR and DPR), but are in fact Russian supplied and directed.

3. The LPR and DPR are not recognized as legitimate entities under the Minsk Agreements. The signatures of the leaders of the so-called Luhansk and Donetsk Peoples’ Republics were added after they had already been signed by Ukraine, Russia, and the OSCE. They were not among the original signatories, and indeed Ukraine would not have signed had their signatures been part of the deal. There is nothing in the content or format of the Agreement that legitimizes these entities and they should not be treated as negotiating partners in any sense. Russia alone controls the forces occupying parts of eastern Ukraine.

4. Russia is in violation of the Minsk Agreements. The deals require a ceasefire, withdrawal of foreign military forces, disbanding of illegal armed groups, and returning control of the Ukrainian side of the international border with Russia to Ukraine, all of this under OSCE supervision. Russia has done none of this. It has regular military officers as well as intelligence operatives and unmarked “little green men” woven into the military forces in Eastern Ukraine. The LPR and DPR forces are by any definition “illegal armed groups,” that have not been disbanded. The ceasefire has barely been respected by the Russian side for more than a few days at a time.

5. Russian-led forces prevent the OSCE from accomplishing its mission in Donbas as spelled out in the Minsk Agreements. It is an unstated irony in Vienna — understood by every single diplomatic mission and member of the international staff — that Russia approves the mandate of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) in Ukraine when it votes in Vienna, but then blocks implementation of that same mission on the ground in Ukraine. Because Russia is a member of the OSCE, and the SMM wants to preserve what little access it has to the occupied territories, the mission is guarded in what it says about ceasefire violations and restrictions on its freedom of movement. Privately, however, they acknowledge that some 80% of such violations and restrictions come from the Russian-controlled side of the border, and those that occur on the Ukrainian side are largely for safety reasons (e.g., avoiding mined approaches to bridges.)

6. Ukraine has implemented as much of Minsk as can reasonably be done while Russia still occupies its territory. The agreements require political measures on Ukraine’s side, including a special status for the region, an amnesty for those who committed crimes as part of the conflict, local elections, and some form of decentralization under the Ukrainian constitution. But the form of these measures is not specified, and Ukraine has already passed legislation addressing every point. It has passed – and extended with renewals – legislation on special status and amnesty, and already has legislation on the books governing local elections. It has passed constitutional amendments. The Minsk Agreements do not require Ukraine to grant autonomy to Donbas, or to become a federalized state. It is Russia’s unique interpretation that the measures passed by Ukraine are somehow insufficient, even though the agreements do not specify what details should be included, and Ukraine has already complied with what is actually specified to the degree it can.

What is lacking in Ukraine’s passage of these political measures is not the legislation per se, but implementation — which Russia itself prevents by continuing to occupy the territory. For example, international legal norms would never recognize the results of elections held under conditions of occupation, yet that is exactly what Russia seeks by demanding local elections before it relinquishes control. Moreover, the elections would not be for positions in the illegitimate LPR and DPR “governments” established under Russian occupation, but for the legitimate city councils, mayors, and oblast administrations that exist under Ukrainian law. Who would vote in such elections? Ukrainian law says all displaced citizens should vote. But would Russian occupation authorities allow this? These are matters for resolution under international supervision – not for Russia to dictate terms.


20 posted on 06/18/2022 5:46:30 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Putin says Minsk accords, which were meant to end war in eastern Ukraine, no longer exist

Business Insider
Natalie Musumeci,John Haltiwanger
February 22, 2022
https://news.yahoo.com/putin-says-minsk-accords-were-175550929.html

[Excerpt:]

* Putin on Tuesday said that the Minsk accords “do not exist now.”

* The accords were ceasefire agreements meant to end fighting in eastern Ukraine.

* By recognizing separatist territories as independent, Putin effectively scrapped the accords.


21 posted on 06/18/2022 5:50:01 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Cathi

Previous (5 min) here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4072156/posts

But the original is poorly posted, not real text displayed.


22 posted on 06/18/2022 6:04:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Cathi

Douglas MacGregor live-action role plays as an opponent of China, while constantly shilling for its allies Russia and Iran. Is this senility or bribery?


30 posted on 06/19/2022 10:17:21 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Cathi; pingman; Zhang Fei; The Old Hoosier; ought-six; Travis McGee; Lurker; Prince of Space; ...
Let's look at the map of the war

That don't look like a Ukrainian collapse -- looks like a Russian collapse

Russian advances are all in pink. Initially, Russia claimed most of the Ukrainian northern border. By April 24, Russia has lost nearly all of it.

33 posted on 06/20/2022 2:29:33 AM PDT by Cronos
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I’m guessing Zelensky will next host an International Ukraine Telethon for Freedom. Maybe even do some crazy piano tricks....


44 posted on 06/28/2022 12:44:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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