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Mexico has one confirmed case. What are the odds that this person had direct contact with that one case who flew in from NYC themselves into Mexico and is supposed to be isolated. Effectively zero. So there is unknown community spread in Mexico now as this person was not in Africa or Europe. And notice that they are monitoring fellow airline passengers who we can be sure didn't butthump this person on the flight home.

Monkeypox is airborne as has been confirmed with dozens of studies via respiratory droplets. It is not known to be aerosolized know the difference it's important. If you are sitting next to an active case or in a few rows of seats for hours on end the vector to vector is greater than 50%. Ask yourself would you sit in the same room across the table from an active case and hold a 5 min conversion without any masks or protective gear.

The household attack rate for monkeypox is 60_70% this is well documented fact, and we know that parents don't usually bugger their children. It's not just a homo vector the UK is showing that now as generation two and three are vectoring in the nongay community now correctly 50% is nonhomo in the UK they are a full generation of cases ahead of the rest.

Monkeypox is a brother to smallpox the scourge of humanity it spreads in essence identical ways it took humans 100 years to wipe out smallpox. We need to bring vaccinate every contact no matter how casual to set up firewalls and hard quarantine the cases. Scientists have warned since the 1980s that monkeypox would evolve to replace smallpox in the human vector that's how evolution works.

1 posted on 06/07/2022 5:04:18 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas
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To: JD_UTDallas

How many diseases are these ‘gimmie-grants’ bringing across our border?


2 posted on 06/07/2022 5:07:23 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: JD_UTDallas
Monkeypox is airborne as has been confirmed with dozens of studies via respiratory droplets.

Stop the fear porn

3 posted on 06/07/2022 5:07:31 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Who’s going to trust vaccines at this point? Are they going to produce the traditional kind or just use gene therapies from now on?


4 posted on 06/07/2022 5:09:40 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: JD_UTDallas
A few people had been exposed to the patient, whom officials are not identifying

i.e., men he had buttsex with.

5 posted on 06/07/2022 5:10:02 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: JD_UTDallas

“We need to bring vaccinate every contact “

F-—k that.


6 posted on 06/07/2022 5:10:31 PM PDT by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: JD_UTDallas

“The patient also had recently traveled internationally”

100 pesos says this cabron attended the “Darklands” gay orgy festival in Belgium which is known to have been the vector for this global outbreak of monkeypox.

https://darklands.be/

“Monkeypox Cases confirmed in Belgium
The Belgian authorities have confirmed the first cases of the Monkeypox virus in Belgium linked to visitors at Darklands.”

https://dailycaller.com/2022/05/20/monkeypox-belgium-outbreak-gay-fetish-festival-darklands-antwerp/

“Outbreak Of Monkeypox Linked To Massive Festival For The ‘Gay Fetish Community’ “


8 posted on 06/07/2022 5:13:25 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: JD_UTDallas

That is absolutely untrue. It’s a contact disease.


9 posted on 06/07/2022 5:21:14 PM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: JD_UTDallas

Faggot-pox.


11 posted on 06/07/2022 5:23:59 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Hold on, y'all, 2022 is going to be a ride you won't soon forget!)
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“Ask yourself would you sit in the same room across the table from an active case and hold a 5 min conversion without any masks or protective gear.”

Yes, I’m not putting the damn masks back on, even if the bubonic plague makes a comeback. Trying to push that crap for over 2 years was a strategic blunder you can’t recover from. Give it up already.


12 posted on 06/07/2022 5:27:09 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: JD_UTDallas

‘Mile-high Club’ flight care of Deviant Air?


15 posted on 06/07/2022 5:33:47 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Well, I can see why you’re so concerned.


17 posted on 06/07/2022 6:03:31 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

It is not airborne!

From CDC —

‘’Monkeypox spreads between people primarily through direct contact with infectious sores, scabs, or body fluids.

It also can be spread by respiratory secretions during prolonged, face-to-face contact. Monkeypox can spread during intimate contact between people, including during sex, as well as activities like kissing, cuddling, or touching parts of the body with monkeypox sores. At this time, it is not known if monkeypox can spread through semen or vaginal fluids.’’


18 posted on 06/07/2022 7:27:14 PM PDT by ManardG
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To: JD_UTDallas

Do we mask up where the sunshine don’t shine? Will passing gas be a criminal offense? Will traveling to Greece be off limits?


19 posted on 06/07/2022 7:50:20 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: JD_UTDallas
It is not "airborne" in the medical world. It can be spread by large droplets:

Droplets settle rapidly and fall to the ground. Airborne viruses can travel via very fine droplets or aerosols over longer distances.

I know you know it does not travel via aerosol, but in the medical world, airborne and aerosol are practically synonymous.

The word "vector" gets misused a LOT here on FR. When speaking of a disease vector:

"Vectors are living organisms that can transmit infectious pathogens between humans, or from animals to humans. Many of these vectors are bloodsucking insects, which ingest disease-producing microorganisms during a blood meal from an infected host (human or animal) and later transmit it into a new host, after the pathogen has replicated. Often, once a vector becomes infectious, they are capable of transmitting the pathogen for the rest of their life."

"https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/vector-borne-diseases"

Sorry, but the crazy ways people are using "vector" on FR when discussing diseases is bugging me, and renders their sentences nonsensical.

Previous outbreaks have been readily contained via contact tracing and isolation. Nearly all cases are occurrng within highly promiscuous sexual networks. The problem with "trace and isolate" in this group is anonymous sex with strangers -- the patient can't name his "close contacts". The same challenge would exist if response was stepped up to ring vaccination.

Those outside those networks generally know who their close contacts are and trace and isolate should work fine as before.

Where did you read 50% of cases in the UK are "nonhomo"? Do you have a link? I would be interested in reading about it. According to UKHSA "People who are gay or bisexual and men who have sex with men remain disproportionately affected."

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/monkeypox-cases-confirmed-in-england-latest-updates

Yes, monkeypox is related to smallpox but is way less contagious with an R0 of >1. Smallpox has an R0 of 3.5 - 6. Now, that's assuming a normal population. Within the population who attend these enormous fetish festivals and huge orgies at gay saunas and have "gay relations" with tens of strangers, it would be WAY higher.

It's not so much a case of the monkeypox virus "evolving" to replace smallpox. It's a case of humans losing immunity to smallpox (which also confers immunity to monkeypox) after vaccination was halted. With no immunity to the pox family of viruses, we humans offer monkeypox a handy new niche to occupy.

Again, humans are not a vector of monkeypox or anything else. We are hosts who can spread it directly to other human (and animal) hosts. Monkeypox is not a vector-borne disease.

If someone has malaria (which is a vector-borne disease), he can cough and sneeze all over you and still not give it to you. You can have intimate relations with a malaria patient and still not catch it. But if there are mosquitoes around, yes you can catch it. The mosquito is the vector. The humans are the hosts.

If someone has monkeypox, a mosquito bites him and later bites someone else, nope, no monkeypox transmission. It cannot replicate inside the mosquito's gut like malaria can.

Where did you find the information that the secondary transmission rate within a few rows on a plane is over 50%? "The secondary attack rate in unvaccinated contacts of monkeypox cases was calculated to be 9.3%." (see link at bottom of this post).

There have been prior cases of symptomatic patients travelling on long fights (including transatlantic flights) with no transmission whatsover.

"July 2021 Travel-Associated Case

CDC and the Texas Department of State Health Services confirmed on July 15, 2021 a case of human monkeypox in a U.S. citizen who traveled from Nigeria to the United States on two commercial flights. CDC supported state and local health officials to identify more than 200 people who had possible contact with the patient. Contacts were asked to monitor their health for 21 days. In early September, 21 days had passed without additional cases identified, and the monitoring period for the remaining contacts ended. Strong collaboration between CDC, state and local health departments, airline and airport partners, and other stakeholders involved in this investigation helped to prevent additional cases of monkeypox in the U.S. related to this case."

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/outbreak/us-outbreaks.html

"There were 3 cases diagnosed in the UK between 8 and 26 September 2018. All known close contacts were followed up after their last contact with cases; no further cases were identified and no further transmission of virus was detected (3)."

https://jglobalbiosecurity.com/article/10.31646/gbio.22/

You can read about procedures followed in the first two cases (third case was a nurse who caught it from patient #2 before proper PPE procedures were instituted), the contact tracing and monitoring (including of airline passengers), etc., here:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6157091/

Both patients were symptomatic before leaving Nigeria, both travelled to the UK by air, then travelled to different destinations within the UK. In both cases, medical personnel did not use proper PPE during early contact with these patients. No one, except the one nurse, caught it.

Of course you *could* catch it from a seat mate on a long flight, hence the tracing and monitoring by health authorities.

What source do you have for the 60-70% household attack rate? That's as bad and worse than the more contagious smallpox! Most sources I have seen put it at around 50% for household members who have never received the smallpox vaccine. With proper PPE procedures (gloves when handling soiled bedding, mask, disinfection of surfaces, etc.), it would likely be far, far lower.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/pharmacology-toxicology-and-pharmaceutical-science/monkeypox

28 posted on 06/07/2022 11:28:08 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably <p>never participated in either.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Per the CDC, FWIW...

“Monkeypox spreads between people primarily through direct contact with infectious sores, scabs, or body fluids. It also can be spread by respiratory secretions during prolonged, face-to-face contact. Monkeypox can spread during intimate contact between people, including during sex, as well as activities like kissing, cuddling, or touching parts of the body with monkeypox sores. At this time, it is not known if monkeypox can spread through semen or vaginal fluids.”

So unless the plane passengers were going for their Mile Hile Club certification, I don’t think they have much to worry about.

If we can trust the CDC on this.


32 posted on 06/08/2022 3:10:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Monkey pox is contagious not infectious. So good luck with a plandemic.


35 posted on 06/08/2022 7:25:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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