Posted on 06/05/2022 10:50:45 PM PDT by RandFan
@PaulBrandITV
BREAKING: Tory rebels expect Sir Graham Brady to make a statement this morning announcing that there will be a vote of no confidence in Boris Johnson.
Only Brady knows the exact details, but this is as certain as anyone has sounded that a vote is on
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About a week after he finalized Brexit, Boris missed his pals at the EU.
Who’s waiting in the wings?
CC
Don’t know yet...
Boris allies claim he’ll win the vote. The rebels will have to put someone forward I guess: “put up or shut up”.
Well, I certainly have ‘no confidence’ in him, and I never have, long BEFORE it was cool on FR.
But I also have ‘no confidence’ the “Conservative” Party would replace him with anyone remotely conservative. Cameron/May/Johnson, the Labour-Lite trio.
Unless some miracle happens where Jacob Rees-Mogg is selected as PM, I expect more leftist rule in the UK, regardless of which party is “in charge” of government.
Johnson is an idiot but the Tories are even more stupid to do this. Reminds me of when they ditched Thatcher to pick John Major, which led to about ten years of Labour ascendancy. Right now Labour is indistinguishable from the old Communist Party.
Good god! Jacob “The Victorian Dad” Mogg?!
He might be more conservative than Boris but he is a bigger joke than Boris. For years he was famous only for being tremendously eccentric even at a very young age. The last time we had one of those in the leadership it was William Hague, who rose to fame for addressing the Tory conference as a drawling schoolboy.
After voting for Brexit JRM shovelled his “clean” money into the Republic of Ireland, so he didn’t lose out.
He also voted for Brexit principally because new EU regulations would’ve scrutinised his more dodgy holdings in tax havens.
If we learned anything from Boris it’s don’t put a guy in Number 10 just because he’s an excellent HIGNFY panellist.
JRM, like Farage, voted for Brexit while making sure his business interests were insulated against any business losses. And both are conspicuously chummy with dodgy Russians, neither has any actual leadership qualities, and they’re both lazy as hell in any position of government responsibility.
I don’t think the ERG is a good place to hunt for talent. Alec Shelbrooke (our man in NATO) is a solid conservative, extremely well qualified in a range of fields, plus he understands infrastructure and technology far more than someone like Mogg, He would make a far better leader.
Mogg’s best chances of the top job were when Antiny Eden was in shorts.
BREAKING:
Acording to BBC:
Threshold of letters reached.
Ballot of Conservative Members of Parliament to be held this evening between 6-8pm BST
Sir Graham will make an address soon.
Thanks. Greetings from the oldest Dominion.
I wish there was a “follow” option on FR, in that most people who post, at best, contribute humour with no new information. Your post is either extremely good disinformation or extremely well informed, with the heavy, heavy odds in favour of the later, so far as I can tell. Naturalman1975 is a Godsend for keeping up with Down Under, and this post is worthy of him—though I’d be interested in hearing his take as well.
Boris is toast. Which is fine by me. He’s been the equivalent of an establishment RINO. He just managed to get the one big issue of Brexit right. He’s been terrible about everything else.
Australia just elected a Labor Government, the UK will the same thing if Boris Johnson is leading the Tories given his handling of Covid and the economy, we are one step ahead of what the UK and Australia are going to dealing with in the next couple of years
On JRM I am well informed. I knew of him in 1997 when he tried to run for election in Fife - driving round with his nanny, in an executive Mercedes, dressed like a 1940s civil servant. It was a working class constituency and people just thought he was from the Monster Raving Loony Party.
Between 1991 and 1998 I studied politics and hobnobbed with a lot of politicians most folks had never heard of. It was the era of the emerging “professional politicians”, where the rising stars in both parties were mostly from the same schools and universities, majoring in journalism or PPE.
I dropped out of the profession after a lunch at the Commons where some New Labour young shavers and Tory newcomers were very pally. Basically, they said that Labour vs Conservatives is a matter of branding choice, not ideology; any pretences of a big ideological gap between the two parties is just good marketing.
Which was then proved between 1996 and 2004 when you could find old Labour mindsets in the Tory ranks and right wingers on the Blair benches.
Johnson is an archetypal chameleon of that mould, with carefully curated image. He messes his hair up for the cameras, and bumbles his speech to create the impression he’s unprepared when he’s actually very well briefed. Boris was quite the progressive after taking over from Red Ken, and a huge europhile until he twigged that he could settle an old Eton grudge with Cameron by switching sides.
Mogg looks like an old school conviction politician, well learned, with a carefully curated but entirely artificial image as an unreconstructed eccentric toff. He is in effect the exact ideological mirror of Jeremy Corbyn. But a lot of that is just very good marketing. He’s really just a proficient hedge fund guru who knows how to keep friends in high places and knows how to push people’s buttons.
Carrie Symonds took over as PM in January 2021.
My t heory is that there are a few Putin supporters who are against Boris;s policy of sending long range missiles to Ukraine, whichi Bioden has refused to do.
The communist internationale is flexing its muscle for their Great Reset. It includes Biden ,Trudeau, Cameron and others. Boris....not so much.
I would say MalPearce has better information than I do. What I’ve heard pretty well matches what he has said about the potential vote of no confidence, and he seems to know more than I do.
I personally like Rees-Mogg - I personally like Boris, for that matter. I wouldn’t call either of them friends or anything like that, but I have met both of them quite a few times. But while I think Boris was a good leader and PM in the immediate post-Brexit era, long term, I’d like to see somebody with broader appeal - I hope he isn’t booted out today, but the party does need to be looking to the future, including the next election. Rees-Mogg - he’s somebody I’d like to see leading the Conservatives only if they headed to a disastrous landslide defeat when an out-of-the-box miracle is all that could work - because he might pull that off, where nobody else would - but as a leader in normal times - he’s too far from what the voters want, especially when Labour has managed to get rid of Corbyn to have somebody who looks sane as reasonable as their leader.
Rees-Mogg seems like a decent chap but he gets no love from the right. Is he just as squishy as Boris?
He was royally booed at the Jubilee church service this weekend.
The boos were reserved for Boris AND Harry/Meghan
LOL yes I saw that!
Funny thing is if he wins this vote tonight he is safe for a year under party rules. Great.
This is their chance to dump him or else doomed I’d say.
If the UK’s Deep State wants him gone, he will be.
If they don’t, he won’t.
The UK’s citizenry don’t get a say.
Just more Kabuki theatre.
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