[D Rider]

Except for the mining of the raw materials and manufacturing of the batteries... Anyway, they may be on track to solve one of the issues of EVs.

[Nifster]

We’ll see

[Sacajaweau]

That would mean that the batteries could be pulled and put into another car....Yes??

[JD_UTDallas]

LiFePO4 cells already can do 12 to 15,000 cycles to 20% DOD. A model 3 with a 330 mile range taken to 20% is 264 miles per DOD cycle over a 12,000 cycle lifetime that’s well over 3 million miles. The packs are expected to loose 20% capacity over that 12,000 cycle lifetime at the end of cycle accounting for th at extra 20% loss and keeping with a lower limit of 20% DOD you still have 198 miles of range per cycle even at that lower limit still well over 2 million miles of life. Tesla themselves expect the model 3 packs to be at least million mile packs they are targeting commercial service with the model 3 as a taxi which will do 100,000+ miles per year in commercial service roles getting to a million plus in a ten year depreciation schedule would be easy with a taxi or uber level of service. My last uber driver had 385,000 on his Toyota and said he drives 450+ miles per day for uber. It had already eaten a transmission he said same engine though.

[sauropod]

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[ConservaTexan]

Call me when it can be charged from dead to full in about 5 minutes.

[Blogatron]

[Organic Panic]

The market will provide. Keep these braindead idiots out of dictating electric cars.

[Vaduz]

A battery design that could last 100 years under the **right conditions**.

As long as the charger is plugged in.

[Steve Van Doorn]

Lithium, Nickel, Manganese and Cobalt Oxide positive electrodes with graphite pouch cells and aluminum foil as a separator. The Lithium Iron Phosphate used as the negative electrodes graphite pouch cells with copper foil as a separator. Charged to 3.8 V at 25 C.

Not bad but the foils can't last 100 years. If there was a way to replace the foils without destroying the batteries it would work.

[aimhigh]

Batteries being long lasting doesn’t eliminate the waste. Once a newer tech battery comes along, the older batteries will end up in landfills just like Ipods and Commodore computers.

[Wuli]

And yet there is this:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1149/1945-7111/ac67b5

[justme4now]

And here I thought that this was about a battery that didn’t have to be re-charged for a hundred years or 4 million miles.. Whichever came first! 🙄

Now That would be an accomplishment! 🙃