Posted on 05/25/2022 7:57:24 AM PDT by Cathi
Robert Barnes: The biggest loser in this Russian Ukraine conflict has been the globalist visions of George Soros and his like crowd. Because a lot things aren't...global digital currency ain't coming any time soon. Global WHO control over pandemics they can try as much as they want legally, politically probably ain't coming any time soon and this is all because they misread Vladimir Putin and Russia frankly. That's what it boils down to.
Alexander: Going back to globalization and the issue of globalization I saw that there was a whole group of business leaders who came along to Davos WEF and all that "World Economic forum"...I'll never forget that is what it calls itself and globalization in a way was conceived there back in the 60s. Anyway a lot of business leaders came along and they said globalization is dead. It's just been killed. You yourselves killed it. Your sanctions in fact destroyed it because what they did is they created this new structure, these new systems and in fact I was reading again in the Telegraph somebody actually saying at Davos now that we have all these countries around the world they're saying, "well if you pose sanctions like that on the Russians you can do the same to us so we are all now working to find alternative routes."
So globalization is finished and Vladimir Putin he played his role and it was a big one. But, the bizarre thing about this is that the initiative to do all this thing that brought the temple down, if you like on everybody's head, the temple of globalization crashing down, it was done by the very advocates of globalization themselves because they misread the Russian economy...they weren't listening to Robert Barnes who could have pointed out to them the Russians have all the oil and energy and food so they will be all right. They can survive the siege. They didn't listen, they went ahead. They thought that this "one dimensional economy the size of Paraguay" or whatever it is that they say would come crashing down like a house of cards. And now they've discovered they were completely wrong and what is crashing down like a house of cards is the whole structure of globalization that they spent the last 70 years creating.
And as I say it is one of the great paradoxes and ironies of history that they have done it themselves to themselves.
Robert Barnes: And just like Napoleon and the Nazi's they forgot not to poke the Russian bear.
Never poke the bear and now they're trying to poke the dragon.
I never thought I would see American conservatives proudly parroting the Kremlin party line but here we are. How pathetic. Reagan is no doubt rolling over in his grave at what has become of the conservative movement.
Trump’s instinct would have had USA and Russia firmly neighborly as with neighbors who don’t particularly like each other but do respect each other and do not throw trash on each other’s lawns or break each other’s windows.
LOL. You are dreaming. Trump happily bombed hell out of filthy Putinists in Syria. Killed hundreds of them.
“...and the New York Times a ‘high credibility’ rating.”
Well, now you know who its major donor is. :)
...or before they precipitate a nuclear war; they are flirting with that. I wrote my Senator and warned him of that and chastised his globalist support.
Yes, the ideological heirs of the Clinton shills who lied and omitted information to shape The Narrative during the impeachment wars of 1998-1999.
You and I were in the FR trenches back in '97 - I remember you well. Â
“I don’t need some FR Class of 2003 n00b explaining to me how the Media works.”
You joined in 2002. You’re such an old-timer, a gnarled old veteran of the wars. Got all the scars to prove it, huh? Have a bit of a limp, do you? Pin on your faded campaign ribbons on special occasions, do you? Regale your neighbors with your heroic exploits in the “Battle of the D.C. Snipers,” which you won single-handedly? Bet you broke the Mystery of the Yellow Cake, and are pissed you weren’t awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
Spare me.
Stay that way.
“I never thought I would see American conservatives proudly parroting the Kremlin party line but here we are. How pathetic. Reagan is no doubt rolling over in his grave at what has become of the conservative movement.”
They are not conservatives. Most of them are just provocateurs; lonely and bitter that life has passed them by; and crushed by their realization that they are just sad and pathetic failures, condemned to the ignominious status of...LOSER.
Many of us found out that was a bad idea when tools like Eschoir and Moldea started coming after us.
Glad that cancelling from your job and your life was just a gleam in the eyes of the Lefties back then.
You never ditched your real name, though - one of the few. Â Â
“I never thought I would see American conservatives proudly parroting the Kremlin party line but here we are. How pathetic. Reagan is no doubt rolling over in his grave at what has become of the conservative movement.”
They are not conservatives. Most of them are just provocateurs; lonely and bitter that life has passed them by; and crushed by their realization that they are just sad and pathetic failures, condemned to the ignominious status of...LOSER.
Good, now I won’t have to read your crap.
Of course he did. That was extraterritorial and unacknowledged by Russia because Putin knew he was out of line.
Was that you that always ran the "The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise" scroll, back in the day?
😄 I would submit that we really do not know what led up to the annexation of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea. It bothered me originally that such a confrontation should become necessary. Could a reasonable observer believe that Russia - who critically lacks convenient sea ports - would give up the Crimea without a fuss?
I thought to myself, a somewhat experienced negotiator, that perhaps Ukraine could have offered a lease arrangement to Yalta - say 100 rubles a year or some such. BUT, as I say, I am not an expert on the region nor the details that led up to Russia's aggression; I suspect much info is being 'held close'.
I do think that S0r0s and the 'West' are stumbling towards a nuclear confrontation with Russia - and I don't like that! My Senator answered me that Russia is a rotten country and a bully. I replied that Russia has always been a rotten country and a bully; we managed to avoid a nuclear war with them up to now.
👌 Likewise! Blessings! 😎 We are 'survivors' - for now.
I struggle with that given the recent 'violence' by the Left. I guess I still believe that, if JimRob can stand it, so should I. 🤷 Besides, if they want to arrest me now, perhaps they can take care of me in my old age.
Yes. Now they have moved far beyond being criminals - now they are traitors - and should be dealt with as such. Of course the Republicans cum Whigs will not do any such thing. The failure of the Whigs led to a 'civil war'.
“...perhaps Ukraine could have offered a lease arrangement to Yalta - say 100 rubles a year or some such.”
But, that’s just it: They DID have a lease agreement, signed in April, 2010. The Kharkiv Pact was a treaty between Ukraine and Russia for Russia to lease naval facilities in Crimea; it was extended to 2042, with provisions for renewal subject to some natural gas assurances.
However, with Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea in March 2014, Russia unilaterally terminated the treaty later that month.
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