Helping the Greenies Understand Fossil Fuels

American Thinker ^ | 25 May, 2022 | Jon N. Hall

[MtnClimber]

Greenies disapprove of carbon and fret about carbon footprints, even though they themselves are carbon-based lifeforms.

Climate-change environmentalists worry that the Earth is too warm. They seem to think they know what the temperature of the planet should be. Those who do not share their certitude about what the correct temperature of the Earth is, call these folks “warmists” or “greenies.”

The big bane of the greenies, their bête noire (excuse my French), is fossil fuels. The greenies are especially vexed by ICE, the internal combustion engine. That’s because ICE vehicles run on fossil fuels, the petroleum products petrol (gasoline) and diesel. That such engines have been used in virtually all vehicles for a century is of no concern to the greenies; ICE vehicles have gotta go, lest the world end in twelve years.

Greenies disapprove of carbon and fret about carbon footprints, even though they themselves are carbon-based lifeforms, one assumes. Fossil fuels consist of hydrocarbons.

The problem with burning hydrocarbons in ICE vehicles, according to the greenies, is the release of carbon into the atmosphere. But ICE vehicles can get around the carbon problem by using the other element in hydrocarbons. Hydrogen is the fuel in a HICE, a hydrogen internal combustion engine. The only exhaust from HICE vehicles is water.

ICE vehicles designed to run on fossil fuel can be retrofitted or adapted to run on hydrogen. This writer first learned of this when a local newspaper reported on Roger E. Billings, who converted a Model A to work on hydrogen. Fuel cells can also use hydrogen to produce power for electric cars.

[Cobra64]

Whenever I hear the term “fossil fuel,” I shake my head at the stupidity.

I wanna know from these irons how life forms got 10,000 feet under the earth’s surface to become fossils, turned into oil for man to drill and extract. /sarc

[Cobra64]

Whenever I hear the term “fossil fuel,” I shake my head at the stupidity.

I wanna know from these irons how life forms got 10,000 feet under the earth’s surface to become fossils, turned into oil for man to drill and extract. /sarc

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

Bravo!

And of course hard truths and plain reality are insensitive and racist, misogynist, trans-whatever-phobic and more.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Ask the greenies why there are so many hydrocarbons on the outer planets."

Proof of alien SUVs and herds of Neptunian cows farting.

Greenies. when peeled, are Red.

[oldtech]

Let Gates & company go first to eliminate the earth of carbon based lifeforms if they are that concerned.

[JD_UTDallas]

Every hydrocarbons system in every basin on this planet has the telltale markers for biological origins. Every year trillons of tonnes of biological matter sinks into the deeps of the ocean’s. In the Gulf of Mexico alone it’s 1 to 3 mm a year every year. The Gulf of Mexico is a Jurassic back arc basin that’s at least 200,000,000 years old. That’s well over 200 thousand meters of sedimentation in that time frame. The vast weight of that amounts of sediment causes compaction and subsidence this is why you have 45,000 plus feet of sediments above the basaltic basement crust in the Gulf. The oils in the Gulf are primarily miocene in age this is confirmed with isotopic analysis, and geochemical signatures every one of which shows biological.carbon origins EVERY SINGLE ONE. I would love to see a peer reviewed source of a proven hydrocarbons system with no biomarkers as a PhD petroleum geologist and geochemical scientist with 20+ years in the industry I’d love to see it as never in any of the tens of thousands of samples I have processed not a single one didn’t have the signatures for biosphere carbons, hydrogen or oxygen isotopes all three are present in hydrocarbon resources in the precise ratios that indicate not only biological origins but marine life.

[JD_UTDallas]

People don’t comprehend the span of geologic time. With a 1 mm sedimentation rate over 200 million years such as the Gulf of Mexico you accumulate hundreds of km worth of sediments above the igneous basement. The steady compaction and gravity induced isostatic subsidence forms the accommodation space for that sediment package. This is freshmen level geology. No where on earth has a single total hydrocarbons system been tested and not had the geochemical signatures of organic carbon. Not a single one anywhere. The Russians at one point had a oil they found in granitic rocks. Which was billed as abiotic with the fall of the Soviet Union and the opening to science that oil was found to have multiple organic geochemical signatures which were traced to a shale source rock under that igneous rocks which was an intrusion not basement rocks as it was thought at the time. 3D seismic confirmed the deeper shale source rock. Anyone with experience and expertise in the industry can show where and how hydrocarbons all have a organic origin. Again this is freshmen geology 1301 level science.