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Helping the Greenies Understand Fossil Fuels
American Thinker ^ | 25 May, 2022 | Jon N. Hall

Posted on 05/25/2022 4:22:39 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Greenies disapprove of carbon and fret about carbon footprints, even though they themselves are carbon-based lifeforms.

Climate-change environmentalists worry that the Earth is too warm. They seem to think they know what the temperature of the planet should be. Those who do not share their certitude about what the correct temperature of the Earth is, call these folks “warmists” or “greenies.”

The big bane of the greenies, their bête noire (excuse my French), is fossil fuels. The greenies are especially vexed by ICE, the internal combustion engine. That’s because ICE vehicles run on fossil fuels, the petroleum products petrol (gasoline) and diesel. That such engines have been used in virtually all vehicles for a century is of no concern to the greenies; ICE vehicles have gotta go, lest the world end in twelve years.

Greenies disapprove of carbon and fret about carbon footprints, even though they themselves are carbon-based lifeforms, one assumes. Fossil fuels consist of hydrocarbons.

The problem with burning hydrocarbons in ICE vehicles, according to the greenies, is the release of carbon into the atmosphere. But ICE vehicles can get around the carbon problem by using the other element in hydrocarbons. Hydrogen is the fuel in a HICE, a hydrogen internal combustion engine. The only exhaust from HICE vehicles is water.

ICE vehicles designed to run on fossil fuel can be retrofitted or adapted to run on hydrogen. This writer first learned of this when a local newspaper reported on Roger E. Billings, who converted a Model A to work on hydrogen. Fuel cells can also use hydrogen to produce power for electric cars.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: communism
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To: MtnClimber
Two points:

CO2 is plant food. It's good for us and the planet. Better crops, more food.

The fact that it gets cold every night and every winter shows that the earth does not absorb and keep the heat for any significant length of time.
It radiates into space all the time. More heat in means more heat out. No buildup.
The whole premise of Man Made Global Warming is wrong.

21 posted on 05/25/2022 5:35:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: MtnClimber
Helping The Greenies Understand Fossil Fuels

Not gonna happen.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS A RELIGION TO THEM.

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22 posted on 05/25/2022 5:53:17 AM PDT by red-dawg (How does confiscating money from us and giving it to chicken-little bureaucrats stop climate change?)
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To: MtnClimber
Just ask one of these tree huggers if they would rather rely on an electric ambulance or a conventional ambulance, to get their child to a hospital.
23 posted on 05/25/2022 5:53:54 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: red-dawg
Lets get the entire image on display


24 posted on 05/25/2022 6:07:04 AM PDT by deport
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To: red-dawg
Lets get the entire image on display


25 posted on 05/25/2022 6:07:04 AM PDT by deport
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To: MtnClimber

“The greenies try to say that CO2 causes a forcing function.”

Thanks for the informative reply.

You say “almost all of the IR energy from the sun gets absorbed by water vapor”. Do you mean incoming IR or IR being radiated from the earth?

Also, are you saying that “long wavelength” IR is radiated from earth, whereas another species of IR comes to us from the sun?

And you’re saying rain removes water vapor from the atmosphere, and you suggest that the more water vapor the more rain, correct?

And you mention the IR radiated by condensing water vapor that produces clouds and rain. Wow!

A good bit of new stuff for me. Thanks again.


26 posted on 05/25/2022 6:07:37 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: deport

Well damn..... one time was enough..


27 posted on 05/25/2022 6:07:58 AM PDT by deport
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To: MtnClimber

The Greenies are morons ,they understand nothing


28 posted on 05/25/2022 6:16:34 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: MtnClimber

So, where are the hydrogen wells.🤔


29 posted on 05/25/2022 6:54:52 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: MtnClimber

there is no such a thing as a fossil fuel


30 posted on 05/25/2022 7:03:23 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: MtnClimber

This whole carbon dioxide is warming the planet is a farce and always has been. CO2 is a TRACE gas in our atmosphere amounting to about 600 parts per MILLION. The Greenies hysteria about increasing CO2 by a few parts per million producing a climate disaster is a ridiculous hypothesis as it assumes that this single trace gas is the sole or primary driver of the earths climate and ignores all other climate influences particularly the sun. The sun is the primary driver of our climate and the sun has variable output. We are seeing the sun entering a more dormant phase as it has done for millennia…less solar energy heating our planet means a decline in average temperatures. Satellite temperature data does not show this global warming and the data along with inaccurate or highly suspect surface temperature data is always manipulated to “prove” global warming.


31 posted on 05/25/2022 7:04:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: MtnClimber

Mr. Hall flunked Econ 101. Saving and reducing consumption will not reduce inflation. Inflation is the increase in the supply of money, nothing more. Bicycling everywhere will not reduce the supply of money.


32 posted on 05/25/2022 7:06:33 AM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe {|})
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Let me take you to the next level...
I first heard about “fossil fuel” in the 5th grade.
I knew back then it was pure bs.

Now I am going to tell you why math is racist.
I have mathematically proven that the theory behind fossil fuels is false.
I went to far as to create an excel spreadsheet, with place to insert different variables, and at the end it spits out either “True” or “False”.
No matter how much I stack the variables to support “fossil fuels”, the answer is always false.

Mathematically, the theory of “fossil fuels” is false.
And that is why math is racist.


33 posted on 05/25/2022 7:08:36 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: MtnClimber

That is it, as they say, in a nutshell.


34 posted on 05/25/2022 7:09:07 AM PDT by arthurus (| covfefe {-})
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To: MtnClimber

Clouds reflect sunlight to outer space. We have a nice negative feedback loop. The earth and oceans warm, for whatever reason, more clouds are created, more energy is reflected into space.

The process also works in reverse. Cooling leads to less cloud formation, causing more sunlight to reach the earth.

One doesn’t need elaborate models to notice the difference between walking in the sun and walking in the shade.


35 posted on 05/25/2022 7:20:45 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Democrats blaming America for segregation is like Germans blaming Europe for the Holocaust.)
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To: central_va

And hydrogen will just magically electrolyze from water and condense itself enough to liquify for easy storage. If some entrepreneur can figure it our great. But until then petroleum is the ONLY way to power the world economy.


36 posted on 05/25/2022 8:00:39 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Ask the greenies why there are so many hydrocarbons on the outer planets.


37 posted on 05/25/2022 8:02:45 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: BiteYourSelf
So, where are the hydrogen wells.

Hydrogen will come from the new pumps they install. Just like eggs come from the walk-in cooler in the back room at the grocery store.

38 posted on 05/25/2022 8:34:04 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

No matter how much evidence you have you can’t convince a Utopian they are wrong they live in a fools world.


39 posted on 05/25/2022 8:46:55 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: MtnClimber
...lest the world end in twelve years.

According to the bartender, the entire planet will be toast in 8.66 years. Gird something.

40 posted on 05/25/2022 9:19:49 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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