"When the Saxon (English) began to Hate"

Rudyard Kipling

[RoosterRedux]

"When the Saxon began to Hate"

By Rudyard Kipling

It was not part of their blood, It came to them very late, With long arrears to make good, When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved, They were icy — willing to wait Till every count should be proved, Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low. Their eyes were level and straight. There was neither sign nor show When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd. It was not taught by the state. No man spoke it aloud When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred. It will not swiftly abate. Through the chilled years ahead, When Time shall count from the date That the Saxon began to hate.

[Sirius Lee]

I prefer the poem “When the Swamp Yankee Learns to be Even More Disagreeable”

[RoosterRedux]

When I talk with people lately about the state of our country and our world, I can hear little bits of their frustration taking form in ways that remind me of this old poem.

[Gratia]

Never heard so much anger from so many people in my long life. And my wife, who works in a grocery store, hears the same thing.

Expensive gas, expensive food, food shortages including baby formula, shortages for all manner of parts automotive and otherwise, huge inflation across the board, massive invasion across our border, daily insults and lies from our oppressors and their propagandist outlets, double standard of justice, men are women and women men, worthless propagandistic education system ... almost like they are instigating the anger on purpose.

[Hiddigeigei]

If I remember correctly, Kipling wrote the poem when his son was killed by the Germans in WWI. I think it was German Saxons (Sachsen) that he (English) was beginning to hate.

[William of Barsoom]

Many are feeling great anxiety and severe discomfort. They don’t know why, because their humanist, progressive, essentially atheistic governing personal philosophy is severely at odds with Simple Reality.

They believe many new and unproven things, and Ronaldus Maximus said, “...much of what they believe isn’t so.” Their beliefs contradict and logically clash — but in a form of “multi-think,” they believe the contradictory ideas.

This makes them tense and dyspeptic and ready to defend their position , if not honor, at the slightest challenge. They are not stable because of this. They are not happy or serene.

When you’re is out on the ledge, you feel the slightest disturbance could make you fall — so you react in panic when somebody pushes you, even a little.

It will take a Definitive Crash — a Complete Bust — before Simple Reality can return.

You can’t talk a panicked person off the ledge: Reason is gone — only fear and desperate panic remain.

“Great shall be The Fall of it.”

[dangus]

The use of the word, “Saxon,” here is an internet invention, entirely alien to Kipling or anyone who didn’t need to plug in their “typewriter.”

[DannyTN]

“What The World Needs Now Is Love”

What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It’s the only thing that there’s just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love
No not just for some but for everyone

[RoosterRedux]

Tough love needed...not sweet love.

[InkStone]

William, you’ve stated PERFECTLY where our culture stands today.
So WHAT IS THE ROOT CAUSE?
We’ve pushed God out of our government, our schools, our homes and yes, out of our churches.
Until we repent and welcome Him back in our culture, American decline will continue. And yes, all this is in the Bible.

[Jan_Sobieski]

LOL!

[JoJo354]

I have a feeling of “something bad is going to happen” all the time these days. It’s a kind of just marking time until all hell breaks loose. I hope it doesn’t happen and things in our country get better and more normal soon, but I just can’t stop my gut telling me it’s not.

[seowulf]

To every thing there is a season, and a time for every purpose under the heaven:

a time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

a time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

a time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

a time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

a time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

a time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

[RoosterRedux]

We’ve pushed God out of our government, our schools, our homes and yes, out of our churches.

I don't think that is an accurate description of what has happened.

IMHO, what has happened is a slow communist revolution in which they have taken over one of our two main political parties, our Deep State, our educational institutions, our military, and many of our religious institutions. Kicking God out is only a part of that takeover.

As is SOP for communists, they have identified groups that can be convinced they are "victims" and then have fanned flames of hatred for their so-called "oppressors," thereby making the revolution a fait-accompli (meaning there can be no return to our former state of existence).

[Ransomed]

And all this dissatisfaction from the fattest, most passively entertained, most comfortable and least used to sustained physical labor of any people that have ever existed.

I think a lot of it is a direct result of our screen culture and 24 hour entertainment/news/social media cycle.

Freegards

[RoosterRedux]

Absolutely.

Things cannot get better in our country until there is some sort of event of the type your gut tells you is coming.

War is inevitable because the fuse has been lit.

The communists in America and the world have sown the wind. Now comes the whirlwind.

[KC Burke]

Of courses it is easy to research that Kipling wrote it as “When the English begin to hate...”.

Germans were those that killed his son in WWI and shortly thereafter he wrote this poem. He never had a kind word for Germans and wiki says he may have popularized the slur “the hun” for the Germans.

[DIRTYSECRET]

Don’t know anything about Saxon’s but I do remember Andrew Young saying the Brits invented racism. Any connection?

I didn’t agree at the time but history suggests they’re the warmongers we get accused of being. Look at their colonial history pushing people around. Look at Churchill luring us into WW2.

[RoosterRedux]

Look at Churchill luring us into WW2.

If he hadn't, we'd probably be speaking German now.

[Clemenza]

Compare the Spanish and Portuguese practice of assimilating the native populations via conversion and intermarriage (taking a nod from the Romans with the latter) with the English practices of (mostly de facto but often de jure) segregation of the colonized and cooptation of local leaders.