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Ukrainian Immigrant Status
5/17/2022 | Jimmy Valentine

Posted on 05/17/2022 9:01:12 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine

This is a question for my fellow Freepers: I have a Ukrainian family living here in Annapolis, Maryland with me. We crossed the border with Mexico at Tijuana in April. One person has a tourist visa issued by the U.S. Consulate in Ukraine. The other two were issued "Humanitarian Visas" by the Department of Homeland Security at the border.

We applied for human services benefits through Maryland Gov. for food stamps etc.

We applied for Social Security cards for two of our people so that they could apply for work in area businesses (both are college educated and speak acceptable English).

The answer in both cases was the same. Because these are "Humanitarian Visas" and not "Refugee Visas" they are precluded from working or receiving benefits from Social Services.

My question to fellow Freepers is this: Have any of you had this same experience and if so, what did you do about it.

Humble thanks


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KEYWORDS: bidenswar; humanitarianvisas; putlims; refugeestatus; ukraine; vanity; zelensky; zelenskyy
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Are you serious? Is this a joke?

If it isn't how dare you ask Frepeers how it is you can wheedle your way into taking benefits your Ukrainian relatives are getting and certainly not entitled to. . God Damn it to Hell the welfare and social benefits of this nation were created by, for and a paid for BY The American People for Americans!! I unabashedly state here all the time I hate immigrants! For Heavens sake this piece of crap of a president has let in two million of them last year! Good God when did we become Motel 6 for the whole world? And next Monday Title 42 will no longer be in place and the flood of this human garbage will be unlike anything this nation has seen in recent decades. I'm so sick of this ''immigrant/refugee/ asylum "I want a better life in America'' s**t.

21 posted on 05/17/2022 9:31:50 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Jimmy Valentine

You are asking for a ZOT.

You probably need one since you aid and abet illegal alien immigration.


22 posted on 05/17/2022 9:36:14 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Jimmy Valentine

When I was younger I brought my new bride and her children here from Australia. I fully understood that I was responsible for them. You brought these people here. You are solely responsible for them. If I were you, I’d buy the women cleaning equipment and get them to work as maids. Buy the men some lawn mowers and get them to work cutting grass. That’s the American way. America is in debt around $100 Trillion dollars. That’s what you brought them here for, to be owners of their fair share of that debt. Get them to work.


23 posted on 05/17/2022 9:37:49 AM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: All

From Wiki:

United States (humanitarian parole)
In the United States, humanitarian visas are also known as humanitarian parole, which are documents granted for short-term urgent humanitarian relief, typically for up to one year. People who would otherwise be unable to enter the United States may be granted such parole in exceptional personal circumstances; however, these do not permit them to obtain permanent residency.[16]

This would mean they did not cross the border illegal. They got a visa. The visa will expire.

Bringing in family members is non trivial. You have a lot of reading to do. Entitlement does not extend to not reading the rules.


24 posted on 05/17/2022 9:41:25 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Jimmy Valentine

You will probably be considered their sponsor, correct? They won’t be able to collect welfare IIRC.

Bill is on you.


25 posted on 05/17/2022 9:44:24 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Miss you Rush!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

More welfare Vindmans.... great. Why didn’t they stop in Europe? Trashy to enter America by coming across the border.


26 posted on 05/17/2022 9:44:35 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Go back over the border and come back when you can come legally.


27 posted on 05/17/2022 9:46:02 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Gardner & Gordon is one of the oldest immigration firms you will need a mess of legal help. The fact that they got visas before entry is good as they won’t be banned from future green cards. Humanitarian visas mean they are on your dime you should habe noticed that when you signed as their sponsorship.

https://www.gardnergordon.com/practice-areas/nonimmigrant-visas/humanitarian-visas/


28 posted on 05/17/2022 9:54:38 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: zeestephen
Jimmy Valentine is a provocateur. EVERYTHING you say can and will be used against Free Republic.

That's very likely. Probably looking for "racism" or such.

Or DHS "disinformation bureau" is now building its database on FReepers

29 posted on 05/17/2022 9:55:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Jimmy Valentine

WTAF?


30 posted on 05/17/2022 9:56:22 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!!)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Why are you not sponsoring these people like was required in the early 20th century so that they are not a burden to the US taxpayer?


31 posted on 05/17/2022 10:34:31 AM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Yo-Yo

How about they just stay in their own country, okay?

We’re full up and next Monday all hell is going to break loose on the southern border.

I can never understand why it is America is so hated and yet the whole freakin’ world wants to come here


32 posted on 05/17/2022 10:39:36 AM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Ask your local republican politician. They give Ukranians free shit all the time.


33 posted on 05/17/2022 10:40:25 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: qaz123; All

This is a first-hand account. We crossed the border entirely legally. My US Passport, my wife’s tourist visa and the humanitarian visas granted by Homeland Security at the border.

I have worked and paid taxes for well over 52 years and need no lectures about how I’m robbing your pockets. I have enough money to take care of my people for as long as necessary. I brought them all of the way here on my own dime. I am rather taken aback at all of the derisory and unkind commentary from people who should know better


34 posted on 05/17/2022 10:40:53 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: zeestephen

Look up my sign up date you ignorant toad. Free Republic used to have a better class of people. Now sadly lacking.


35 posted on 05/17/2022 10:45:46 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

You are an idiot


36 posted on 05/17/2022 10:47:50 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Fine. You brought them over. You take care of them

My daughter brought over her finance (now husband) and was responsible until he can legally work in the US. The same should apply to your extended family. No government aid from my tax money. When they can be self sufficient, God bless them. Until that time, it’s your problem.


37 posted on 05/17/2022 10:49:35 AM PDT by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

You have no idea what you are talking about. ZOT yourself ignorant toad.


38 posted on 05/17/2022 10:49:49 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: Dogbert41

That is the plan. But working without proper documents will make for big trouble.


39 posted on 05/17/2022 10:51:24 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: Jimmy Valentine; All

Well your original post appears to be a bit lacking in information, ie...that you have a US passport, which completely changes the dynamic.

However, if she’s your wife, then she’s a citizen, is she not? And if you have enough money to take care of them, why all the questions.

You mention two other people that received, humanitarian visas(whatever they are), who are they? Are they here under some type of refugee status? If they are refugees, then they’re entitled benefits, are they not? Oh wait, CornPop isn’t giving the Ukrainians refugee status if I remember reading.

Again........they are precluded from working or receiving benefits from Social Services.......”I have enough money to take care of my people for as long as necessary. I brought them all of the way here on my own dime”.....so if you have that kind of money, why should they be put on the dole so the taxpayer can take care of them?

As for the derision and unkind commentary.....I’m betting that your wife and whoever else were NOT the ones funneling money to Biden and the rest of Congress. I’m betting that they’re not part of the oligarchy that has been robbing the US blind and kicking back money to our politicians. Like everyone else on this site, I’m sure, I/we feel horrible for the civilians caught up in the whole thing.

However.....NOT OUR EFFIN’ PROBLEM. I don’t care how bad the Russians are, the only reason this has lasted this long is because of help from the outside world, mainly the US. Reports say that we’ve depleted our stockpiles of Stingers and Javelin’s.

Oh yeah....one more thing....we’ve given the Ukrainians $14,000,000,000 in aid so far...and the crooks in DC are about to approve another $40,000,000,000...all while EVERYTHING in the US is costing more and getting worse and babies can’t get formula.

On top of all of that, over 2,000,000 illegals poured into this country, middle of the night flights dispersing them all over the country, refugees pouring in...and then we have that little debacle in Afghanistan last year where over 100,000 Afghans poured into the country, over 97% of whom did not help the US or the US military in any way and we have no way of knowing who they are. AND THEY’RE ALL GETTING PAID.

Feel free to take a peek at this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhDfMfV7Zf0 ..... money to Ukraine to secure its border, pay salaries, pensions, food security .... nothing but more money laundering.

So, how about you realize that most folks could give a flying rat’s a$$ about anything Urkainian, given what has been going on for the last couple of years.


40 posted on 05/17/2022 11:15:52 AM PDT by qaz123
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