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Gonzalo Lira: Why Did Lloyd Austin Call Sergei Shoigu?
The Saker ^ | 5/14/22 | Gonzalo Lyra

Posted on 05/14/2022 7:15:41 PM PDT by ganeemead

Call from Austin as Ukraine collapses


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1 posted on 05/14/2022 7:15:41 PM PDT by ganeemead
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Just think how many here are going to be shocked when Ukraine ends up being a landlocked, rump state.
2 posted on 05/14/2022 7:17:39 PM PDT by Kazan
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Why does Austin want a cease-fire?

“We are winning” in Ukraine right?


3 posted on 05/14/2022 7:24:11 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Kazan

Just think how many here are going to get shocked when Russia ends up landlocked, rump state.
Restore the grand duchy of Muscovy!


4 posted on 05/14/2022 7:25:28 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: ganeemead

Ukraine: military situation update with maps, May 14, 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkOQCVNRsI


5 posted on 05/14/2022 7:27:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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Just think how many here are going to get shocked when Russia ends up landlocked, rump state.

How is that going to happen? lol

The real question, why would you believe Biden regime narrative about this war when it lies about everything else?

6 posted on 05/14/2022 7:27:33 PM PDT by Kazan
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Moscow didn’t pick up. It was a repeat of Biden’s failed call to Saudi Arabia begging for oil?


7 posted on 05/14/2022 7:36:47 PM PDT by Antioch (Against stupidity even the Gods struggle in vain….)
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8 posted on 05/14/2022 7:46:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Affirmative action is systemic/institutional racism/sexism targeting straight, white males.)
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To: Kazan

I don’t listen to Biden about anything. This guy says one thing and another guy says the opposite. We believe what we want to believe.

The only fact I care about is Russia invaded a sovereign country. If it was the other way around, I would be pulling for Russia


9 posted on 05/14/2022 7:47:21 PM PDT by roving
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To: ganeemead

I would imagine Austin does not call if he thinks Ukraine is winning


10 posted on 05/14/2022 7:47:56 PM PDT by AmericaFirst101
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Russia’s currency is up over 60% against the U.S. dollars.


11 posted on 05/14/2022 7:48:33 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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It could implode upon itself.


12 posted on 05/14/2022 7:54:20 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: AmericaFirst101

Whatever Austin is selling, Shoigu isn’t buying...the Russians probably got tired of hearing the phone ring.


13 posted on 05/14/2022 7:55:21 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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“The only fact I care about is Russia invaded a sovereign country. If it was the other way around, I would be pulling for Russia”

Life’s so simple for people who dig as deep as you do...


14 posted on 05/14/2022 7:58:19 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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Russia’s currency is up over 60% against the U.S. dollars.

It's up from about 0.013 prewar to 0.015 now. That's at most a 15% increase. To claim a bigger increase requires cherry picking an early March low when the Ruble was under trading pressure. Those lows did not last long. Chart: https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/RUBUSD/

15 posted on 05/14/2022 8:00:07 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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“Whatever Austin is selling, Shoigu isn’t buying”

The purpose of the cease fire is to allow the heavy weapony, all stuck in the far west of Ukraine (the part that Poland will be taking) and they are simply UNABLE to move it to the combat zones without getting decimated. Austin, of course, won’t say that, but Russia knows the game...so he’s wasting his time.


16 posted on 05/14/2022 8:02:19 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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I agree with Lira, those Ukrainian soldiers are dying for nothing - or rather they are dying to further the interest of the US at this point, not Ukraine. Ukraine is in shambles and will never return to it’s former state. And the longer it goes on, the more lives that will be lost. (and the more territory that will be lost.) That is the simple reality.

When Boris Johnson visited Zelensky last week, it was said Zelensky raised the possibility of seriously negotiating the end of this with Russia, and was told by BoJo that no, under no circumstances will he be allowed to do that, that neither the US or UK would allow it. It is frankly totally immoral we are using them as cannon fodder to promote our own interests. Those supporting the continuation of this war are evil (or in the case of many freepers, just flat out stupid).


17 posted on 05/14/2022 8:03:03 PM PDT by jimwatx
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“It’s up from about 0.013 prewar to 0.015 now. That’s at most a 15% increase. To claim a bigger increase requires cherry picking an early March low when the Ruble was under trading pressure.”

You are correct, of course, but picking early March has merit, as that was when a certain airhead declared the currency to be “Rubble”.


18 posted on 05/14/2022 8:03:51 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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Restore the grand duchy of Muscovy!

No, Biden clearly said that he is dumping Russia back into the 19th century.

He did not give exact date, but assuming middle of 19th century the plan is to stop Russia from getting Lvov, and give them Warsaw, Finland, Alaska and parts of California instead. :P

19 posted on 05/14/2022 8:05:32 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: roving
Russia invaded a sovereign country.

sovereign? Really? Are you a successful citizen? Is Ukraine a sobriety state? Really? Ukraine was once part of Russia, and so it will be again. Khrushchev was born there, after all. And why do you care?

20 posted on 05/14/2022 8:09:00 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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