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The Real Zelensky: From Celebrity Populist to Unpopular Pinochet-Style Neoliberal
The Grayzone ^ | May 3 2022 | Natylie Baldwin

Posted on 05/04/2022 8:44:20 AM PDT by PGR88

Propagandists may repeat the mantra “Zelensky is a Jew, so he cannot be a Nazi” as often as they want, but the truth is that radicals control the political process in Ukraine through violence against those who dare confront their nationalistic and supremacist agendas.

The case of Anatoliy Shariy — one of the most popular bloggers in Ukraine living in exile—is a good example to illustrate this point. Not only does he, along with his family members, permanently receive death threats, radicals constantly intimidate the activists of his party (banned by Zelensky in March 2022), beating and humiliating them. This is what Ukrainian radicals call “political safari.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: agitprop; chechens; chechnya; holocaustdeniersonfr; ntsa; pedosforputin; putinlovertrollsonfr; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; putlims; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; zelensky; zottherussiantrolls
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1 posted on 05/04/2022 8:44:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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Pinochet was a great man. He was the first person in history to successfully depose a Communist regime and he did it at a low price of making fewer than 1800 people disappear.

In one generation, Chile graduated from the third world to the first world because of what he did.

2 posted on 05/04/2022 8:51:18 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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I’m sure after they level the cities those well known reformers the Russian army will bring Enlightenment and peace to Ukraine.

This article is kind of like the Manson family breaks into your house kills half your family and then start telling people you were not recycling.

Brought to you by the same people who are now announcing that Sweden is a nazi country.


3 posted on 05/04/2022 8:53:26 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Yes, I agree. I found their comparison to Pinochet unwarranted and incorrect.

Its a somewhat leftist site, so for them, Pinochet is a bogeyman in all ways I suppose.

Otherwise, the article is VERY informative about the state of Ukraine and Zelensky’s history.


4 posted on 05/04/2022 8:53:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Williams

You didn’t even read the article. It merely explains the many fractures within Ukraine society and politics.


5 posted on 05/04/2022 8:54:34 AM PDT by PGR88
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6 posted on 05/04/2022 8:55:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Early this year the Polish Legislature passed a law banning these radical Ukrainian ideologies.

So what did the Ukrainians do in Feb? They condemned the Polish.

There will NEVER be any peace in that region with these groups running around.

Zelensky tries to broker a peace deal? He will be assassinated within a few weeks by one of these groups.


7 posted on 05/04/2022 8:57:11 AM PDT by crz
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A few years ago, I read a book about an Orthodox priest from England who was visiting some monasteries in Greece. While there, he met an Orthodox priest from the Ukraine who was trying to gain permanent residency in Greece because he feared for his life back in the Ukraine. He claimed that the government then in power (this was about 2016, pre-Zelensky) was "fascist," was targeting and murdering Christians, and had been installed with the assistance of the CIA.

At the time, I had no idea what he was talking about, but articles like this have shed some light on it.
8 posted on 05/04/2022 8:57:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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I was curious as to what was meant by "neoliberalism", so I read the article and found this - which is intended as a criticism::

It is this progressive modernizing discourse that allowed Zelensky to camouflage his plans for neoliberal reforms, launched just three days after the new government came to power. Throughout the campaign, the idea of “progress” highlighted by Zelensky was never linked to privatization, land sales, budget cuts, etc.. Only after Zelensky had consolidated his presidential power by establishing full control over the legislative and executive branches of power did he make it clear that the “normalization” and “civilization” of Ukraine meant the privatization of land and state/public property, the deregulation of labor relations, a reduction of power for trade unions, an increase in utility tariffs, and so on.

That sounds very much like what Thatcher did in the UK. He's trying to turn Ukraine from a centrally-planned socialist state into a capitalist one.

9 posted on 05/04/2022 9:00:04 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin (Sounds like a lot of malarkey to be)
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Wow... An academic saying mean things about Zelensky? It must be true because academics never lie...

Zelensky chose to stay and fight when almost everyone else would have left.


10 posted on 05/04/2022 9:02:05 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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About Max Blumenthal, owner of the blog:

“..Blumenthal has contributed to broadcasts on RT (formerly known as Russia Today) on many occasions.[10] In December 2015, during a visit to Moscow presumed by multiple sources to have been paid for by the Kremlin,[15][18] Blumenthal was a guest at RT’s 10 Years On Air anniversary party attended by President Vladimir Putin, then-Lieutenant General Michael Flynn of the United States and English politician Ken Livingstone.[15][10][19] In an interview with Tucker Carlson on Fox News in November 2017, Blumenthal defended RT against “the charge that it’s Kremlin propaganda.”[10][20] He has also contributed on multiple occasions to Sputnik radio,[18][21] as well as to Iran’s Press TV[22][23] and China’s CGTN…”


11 posted on 05/04/2022 9:03:34 AM PDT by libh8er
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Owner of “The Grayzone”


12 posted on 05/04/2022 9:05:13 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
That sounds very much like what Thatcher did in the UK. He's trying to turn Ukraine from a centrally-planned socialist state into a capitalist one.

But Ukraine is not the UK. Very different cultures and history. The question is, as with Russia in the 1990s - Exactly who takes over when you nationalize the state oil or steel company? In such a corrupt place as Ukraine, the average people already know. And people like Hunter Biden will be there, for a price, to help.

13 posted on 05/04/2022 9:09:19 AM PDT by PGR88
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Gee if fractures within a country make it eligible for Russian invasion then I guess we ought to get prepared


14 posted on 05/04/2022 9:12:44 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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The Grayzone is a left-wing to far-left news website and blog founded and edited by American journalist Max Blumenthal. The website, initially founded as The Grayzone Project, was affiliated with AlterNet before becoming independent in early 2018.


15 posted on 05/04/2022 9:23:15 AM PDT by Wuli
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Gee if fractures within a country make it eligible for Russian invasion then I guess we ought to get prepared

Imagine an independent Texas (many in FR do). Imagine politicians trying to radicalize a split between Hispanic and White / Spanish-speaking and English

Imagine China, in alliance with Mexico or other nations, feeding arms into this political and cultural split, supporting one party over another, or arranging coups. Imaging them forming a military alliance which would take foreign troops to Oklahoma borders. Ya' know - "supporting democracy, and stuff"

You'll start to understand Ukraine's situation.

And yes, in such a case, you had better be prepared.

16 posted on 05/04/2022 9:25:41 AM PDT by PGR88
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But Ukraine is not the UK. Very different cultures and history. The question is, as with Russia in the 1990s - Exactly who takes over when you nationalize the state oil or steel company?

You're not nationalizing anything. You're doing the opposite. Better than leaving everything under the permanent control of government.

What Thatcher and Reagan did was wildly unpopular during the initial transformation towards a more market-based economy because short-term, it can hurt. Long-term, it saved both of our economies, and likely would have done the same for Ukraine.

In case people forget, the Hunter Biden crap happened during the Obama Administration, and Zelensky didn't even come into power until 2019. Blaming him for the corruption that came before him, when he wasn't even in government at all, is ridiculous.

17 posted on 05/04/2022 9:26:02 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin (Sounds like a lot of malarkey to be)
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Not even close to an accurate analogy


18 posted on 05/04/2022 9:29:59 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: PGR88

So what’s wrong with a Pinochet-stye liberal? Is this a back-handed attempt at a complement?


19 posted on 05/04/2022 9:56:29 AM PDT by LuxAerterna (/)
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“Propagandists may repeat the mantra “Zelensky is a Jew, so he cannot be a Nazi” as often as they want,”

One under the apparently *shocking* theory that Jews are human just like you and me, they are capable of treachery, tyranny, murder, duplicity, opportunism, and bribery.

Two, it’s a fact that Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and half the Bolshevik leadership was Jewish. From Alinski, to Ayers, etc the revolutionary socialist movement in America has been lead by Jewish people. So they are capable of being fine totalitarians joining in with the best route to power wherever they are. This happens with moslems and Christians and atheists also.

In Nazi Germany, SS member number 2 was Emil Maurice, right behind Adoph Hitler who had membership number 1. There were more than a few high ranking Nazis suck as Reinhard Heydrich and yes, Der Fuhrer himself that had Jewish roots.

Shockingly also, even in Israel itself, Jews run the range from salt of the earth capitalists, to doctrinaire pure communists who love the PLO. They even vote differently. One faction has even assassinated the leader of the other side!

So Zelensky is a corrupt guy, who ran on a platform of ending the Galician attack on the Donbass by implementing Minsk II. He was steamrollered by the Galician nazis and cannot control them. On video they told him to his face they would NOT remove their heavy weapons. He answered “I am the president, you cannot talk to me that way!”. But they did.
Azov threatened to hang him if he pushed more. That is on video Azov released. Now he is showing his authoritarian side by closing media outlets and arresting people for social media posts, and closing opposition parties. He is first class grifter a-hole.

We should really operate under the idea that Jews are fully normal and can appear anywhere on the spectrum of politics.
His Jewish background does not tell us if he is a nazi tool or not. This same concept goes for all religions.


20 posted on 05/04/2022 10:58:40 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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