Posted on 04/30/2022 2:56:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
There is a path to peace in Ukraine. In reality, there are a couple of them that are both feasible and wouldn’t require much effort on our part. But those are the two things that are not being done, which makes some wonder if Joe Biden and his regime are actually seeking peace at all.
Spoiler alert: They’re not. They’re doing everything they can to PROLONG the war and decimate the economies of all western nations, including the United States.
The first path to peace is to stay out of it altogether. The sooner Ukraine falls, the better it will be for everyone other than those in the Ukrainian government and the globalist elites. Yes, the Ukrainian people would be better off with a quick end to the war than one that is extended for months, even years. Most may not want to live under Russian occupation, but it’s better than living under the constant threat of war.
By no means am I rooting for the Russians. I wish they had never invaded in the first place. But now that they have, and since it seems extremely unlikely they will stop until the job is done, prolonging the war does nobody any good. Vladimir Putin is a corrupt leader, but so is the Ukrainian government. Volodymyr Zelensky is a puppet of the World Economic Forum, and much of the current government sympathizes with Nazis. Preserving this government at the detriment of the people is neither ethical nor beneficial to America.
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This is about Russia invading Ukraine; it is not about the character of Zelensky. The path to peace is for Russia to go home.
No, jjotto wants to give Putin everything he wants.
Look at it this way. If there were any actions the US government could have done to push Russia into war, and actions taken that made it worse, the Biden administration has done it.
Leading up to the war:
Starting with the Obama/Biden administration, the US encouraged the ouster of the Russian-friendly Ukraine president in 2014. They were then acquiescent to the Russian takeover of Crimea. Taken together, these actions indicated a US policy that was treating the Ukraine people with contempt, and disrespect.
As president, Biden strongly encouraged Ukraine to join NATO and said the US would likely not respond to a "minor incursion". Again, while these statement seem contradictory, they both indicate disrespect for Ukraine.
Now at war, the US continues to send weaponry that gives Ukraine hope that they might be able to defeat Russia, yet each day, their homeland is a battlefield, and losing large numbers of soldiers and civilians.
At the same time, the US leads the world in placing sanctions on Russia, taking away their incentive to end the war short of maximum leverage. The only way Russia restores acceptance on the world stage is if they are able to negotiate from strength. That means total victory over Ukraine.
The US is playing both sides against each other, in part because they think both nations are corrupt.
> As long as Brandon’s buddies get to sell lots of military hardware, it’s all good. <
Yep. There are a lot of moving parts in this whole Ukraine mess. And one of them is what you just noted. Eisenhower wasn’t kidding around when he warned us about that.
AS I continue to believe, this is a war that both sides were pushed into. There was absolutely no need for this conflict, but elements within the US and the West just kept pressing and pressing the buttons. There has almost assuredly been pathways to peace but apparently it is now US stated policy to weaken Russia.
I don’t not believe Russia or Ukraine stumbled into this, and I absolutely believe this conflict is being kept hot for very specific political and economic reasons.
Two words:
Shocking that an American would even consider writing the above no matter how dumb or brainwashed they are with Russkie propaganda.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
― Samuel Adams
Just go watch some more TV. They’ll tell you what to think.
How'd they manage to do that?
Russia amassed a giant army at the border they'd been setting the pieces for for over a year and then invaded while claiming that all accusations that they were about to invade were hysterical, warmongering lies.
Putinists on this forum assured us there would be no invasion, that there was no reason to invade, that invasion was against Russia's interest, and insulting everyone as warmongers and NeoCons for saying "this big fookin army looks like it's about to invade Ukraine."
Now Putinists on this forum assure us there was a path to peace but was somehow blown by the USA which "poked and prodded" Russia into gang raping little girls in Bucha.
Projection on your part. 100% of statements by Putinists on this forum have been made by other Putinists on telegram and on their shitty blogs, often times word for word without citation, even using the same descriptors to explain how they feel about articles.
Wel, for starters, the Biden regime could have very publicly proclaimed that Ukraine would never be part of NATO. The Biden regime deliberately abrogated agreements with Russia and put defensive (wink, wink) missiles all around Russia.
Biden himself kept saying publicly that Putin was his boy and wouldn’t invade. Then Biden said, oops, maybe a small incursion. Yes, I am well aware of the atrocities of war, and I would bet my last dollar that the Russians aren’t the only ones who have committed atrocities.
Apparently the great Biden who always begins his bluster proclaiming, “I’m the guy who...” Biden, the guy who took down Corn Pop and told the American people he was the ONLY guy who could go toe-to-toe with Putin.
No, I’m sorry, while Russia initiated this suffering and mess, Zelenskyy is not the white knight all others proclaim he is. It is a fact that Ukraine was a corrupt government that laundered money for Biden and Democrats. Zelenskyy himself was installed by Soros. It is obvious that this war has become the US’ beloved proxy war with Russia, unless you believe the Ukrainians sunk that Russian ship alone. Unless you believe the Ukrainians, alone, just happen to be locating all these Russian generals and taking them out. Pffft...
I stand by my post. I simply do not succumb to the mindless, erratic propaganda constantly spewed.
Your very use of the word “Putinist” betrays you as a low-IQ parrot.
It certainly appears that way without any real diplomatic attempt at peace talks but tons and tons of effort to pour arms and ungodly amounts of money into the war zone after giving Putin the green light 🤪
This is complete and pure BS. You are talking about alleged USA actions since 1991, not under Biden.
And in that event: Russia has violated every single arms agreement they have ever signed with us, actually fielding 10,000 "defensive wink* wink*" ABMs with nuclear tipped missiles, fielding and developing illegal nuclear missiles with multiple warheads designed to skirt limits on missiles, amongst other things, and when caught, lying about it over and over again.
It is Russia that placed nuclear missiles on the border of NATO, and when Poland complained, Russia basically said "fook u, we can place nukes where ever we want."
It is Russia building anti-ship missiles around Japan and our other allies, and sending ships into Japanese waters to threaten Japan just as China is threatening to nuke them.
It is Russia that has been caught sending arms to communist groups like FARC in South America, and which has supported Narcoterrorism in Latin America (see the book Red Cocaine), not to mention the criminal regime of Cuba as it has worked to undermine Latin governments and society.
It is Russia that has given weapons and technology to our enemies like North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, China, etc.
Meanwhile, NATO has APPEASED Russia, even while Russia has put most of its military funding into preparing for WW3 and destroying the West.
Zelenskyy was installed by Soros
I've heard a lot of this bullshit, but have never actually seen it proven. What I have seen are out of context phone calls and other insane BS repeated by Russian sources.
You are so unoriginal you are even using my own insults because you're too stupid to come up with anything original. You are the definition of an NPC.
Putin goooooood, America baaaaaaaaaad.
The Democrats must have done some really dirty stuff in Ukraine.
The Democrats are willing to have this horror and slaughter go on as long as their criminal deeds aren’t exposed.
Democrats have criminal hearts.
File this headline under “Well, no sheet!”
The longer this drags on, the more opportunities for the MIC to sell arms to other countries in the area. The more lives/treasure it costs the Russians, etc.
We did the same thing when the Russians were in Afghanistan. We armed the mujahideen to drag it out for the same reason. A long, quagmire-esque (giggity) war is a drag on the Russians. And weakens an enemy of the US.
“Most may not want to live under Russian occupation, but it’s better than living under the constant threat of war.”
The author is not a Ukrainian and has no moral standing to suggest that that is what Ukrainians MUST accept. That condition is not the author’s call.
“Great reset” tonfoil hat phrase of the last couple years. I guess new world order isn’t hip any more...
The rw has a lot of loons... no wonder the left is winning...
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