Why do some people never get COVID while others get it several times, even if vaccinated?

There are many people who have never gotten COVID-19, despite repeated exposure. At the other extreme, there are lots who’ve gotten sick from the coronavirus more than once, despite being vaccinated and even boosted.

A lot of factors are at play, experts said, including genetics and variations in immune response. Scientists are working towards finding a clear answer.

Are some people genetically immune to COVID?

There’s a difference between people who can never catch COVID, despite exposure, and those who are able to clear it out of their systems without ever knowing they had it. If this second category of people tested regularly, they might show positive for a day or two. Different factors are likely at play between the two groups.

"It’s so messy,” Dr. Julie Parsonnet, an infectious disease specialist at Stanford University. “We don’t know how to differentiate between whether you’re just lucky, really careful or if genetically something is different.”

In one study, conducted in early 2021 and known as the human challenge study, 36 healthy young adult volunteers — none of whom had been vaccinated or previously infected — were deliberately given the virus that causes COVID-19 in their noses and tested frequently afterward to track infection. Remarkably, nearly half never got infected at all.

No vent.

They gave me steroid cocktails. I caught it early in 2020, when there wasn’t even a response protocol and Pelosi was still encouraging people to go to China town.

January 2020, doctor was worried and gave me a chest xray. Was sick for a week but the xray was clear.

February, still having trouble breathing, sick as a dog. Another xray. Hospital said upper respiratory infection. Steroid cocktail IV, sent me home next day.

March, still can’t breathe. Another xray, MRI. Tell me its pneumonia, another cocktail IV, and send me home with more steroids.

April, still can’t breathe. Doctor orders another xray and MRI, sends me to a pulmonologist. Pulmonologist looks at all my records and wants to know when I had COVID, because there was scarring all over my lungs.

Diagnosed stage I COPD.

By August, I’m getting WORSE, not better. They move me to stage 3, emphysema. I now have an 80% chance of surviving the next 4 years.

Doctor runs full labs. Adrenal system depleted. Kidneys starting to show distress. Pumps up my hormones and my health starts to improve.

I’ve been on prednisone, doxycycline, phenazoprydine, symbacort, spirivia, hormone supplements and more.

I’m testing back at stage 1, so I can survive at least 10 years.

From effortlessly climbing to the top of Duomo in Florence in 2019 to barely able to walk 3 blocks in a year.

This was a bioweapon. Two years later, I’m still not 100%. Who knows how many years were taken from me because of it.

But the worst part is the anger. Anger at the government for destroying so many businesses and acting like petty tyrants, anger at that freak Fauci who denied people choices and silenced critics, anger at the media for the thousands of daily lies, anger at China for creating and releasing this thing.

So, yeah, when people claim I must somehow be a psycho for what I went through, or call me a paid stooge for not towing their “covid is a myth” line, I want to smash their faces in. They are just as bad, just as stupid, just as willfully AF ignorant as the idiots in the government, media, etc.

I am terribly sorry to hear of your awful experience. My wife and I both volunteered and were paid for work we did at the Life Care Center of Kirkland up until just before it became the first known long term care facility in the country to suffer from an outbreak of Covid that killed multiple residents and even a couple of staff. The facility was maligned in an awful way by the media and politicians, but it was among the very best, and the only non-hospital in the area which offered a level of care which included ventilators and tube feeding. There were several reasons that residents and the facility were so vulnerable, but the number of very sick people who lived there was the most important factor.

Believe it or not in some ways you are lucky because the protocol that was adopted in many places in this country after you developed symptoms and began treatment had a very high fatality rate. Your doctors were still using their best judgment to save your life.

The best example that I can think of to explain what I mean is the CPR protocol that we used when I first began working for the big city Fire Department that I was a member of for 25 years. When I first started we used masks with “demand valves” to ventilate people we were giving CPR to with 100% oxygen.

We placed a mask on the demand valve which had a push button on the back of it. When we established a seal with the mask and face of our patient... we pushed the button and it forced oxygen into the lungs. This resulted in obvious chest rise and along with chest compressions we literally could pink up a corpse who had been dead for quite a while before we had arrived. So we were delivering many beautifully pink corpses to the hospital who were declared dead shortly after our arrival.

The problem was not the dead people but those who our efforts along with strong drugs administered by our paramedics actually resulted in people’s hearts beginning to beat again... we called then the “saves”. The “saves” gave us a great sense of accomplishment and a lot of high fives were exchanged and people kept track of all those that our efforts brought back to life. And the taxpayers rewarded us and other Fire Departments all across the country with big bucks in EMS levies that were used to “save” people after their hearts had stopped.

But there were paramedics especially from our department who went back to visit the people we had “saved” and they noticed a disturbing trend. Within a few days, almost all of our “saves” were dead. There were some exceptions, mostly people who were transported from outlying areas where they didn’t yet have demand valve masks. This went on for years all across the country until eventually a pattern was noticed by the “experts” and it was realized that 100% oxygen delivered during CPR with a demand valve was trashing the lungs of people who were being saved. The protocol was killing people. We switched to bag valve masks and the proportion of people who survived CPR given by our department went up astronomically. When you have a 99% death rate and it goes to 89% that translates to 10 times more people surviving.

That is a short and crude example, but it actually fits fairly well with what went wrong all across the country and the world with Covid patients. As you are acutely aware the initial form of the virus which was released likely from a lab receiving funds from our own government was far more lethal than the current variants going around and was very capable of causing the awful problems that you have experienced. But at this point if you are an old person who goes to the hospital with the sniffles there is a chance that they may follow a protocol which could still be lethal if your “Rapid PCR” test comes back positive. Never go to the hospital without an advocate... The government still is paying big bucks for anyone who gets the full meal deal for Covid and it creates negative incentives for your treatment plan that could ultimately kill you.

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