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How the hell did you let Moskva be sunk? State TV host rants at Russian Navy
METRO ^ | Monday 18 Apr 2022 1:46 pm | Zaina Alibhai

Posted on 04/18/2022 6:02:29 AM PDT by GonzoII

A Russian state TV presenter has expressed his fury over the sinking of the country’s warship Moskva demanding answers on how it managed to go down.

Russia-1 anchor Vladimir Solovyov, who has been sanctioned for his support of Putin, criticised the Navy over the incident during a nationwide broadcast.

He said: ‘I am furious about what happened to the Black Sea Fleet’s flagship, Moskva. I am simply furious.

‘And yes, we say it was quite old and went through repairs, and, yes, this series of ships has vulnerabilities. I get it. ‘But tell me this: how did you manage to lose it? Explain me, why the hell you were in that particular area of the Black Sea at that time?’

Mr Solovyov questioned why there was no system in place to mitigate chaos in the event of a fire.

He said: ‘I don’t care what exactly happened – if indeed [it was] the two Neptune missiles as the Ukrainians said. Since when was a combat ship scared of a missile strike, since it has a defence system? Was something not activated?....


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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: clownworld; isaidbudlight; keinerdgasfursie; moskva; nyuknyuknyuk; putin; russiaa; ukraine; yousankmybattleship; zottherussiantrolls
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Comments? Seems like Putin's thoughts.
1 posted on 04/18/2022 6:02:29 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

Mr Solovyov questioned why there was no system in place to mitigate chaos in the event of a fire.

Here are some reports on the state of the ship.

Moskva fire suppression systems:
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1514965128881573897

Old, not working, rusted closed, never actually upgraded.

Ship’s state: in depth
https://twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1515400356230057986


2 posted on 04/18/2022 6:12:48 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: GonzoII

They’re just letting this guy voice the outrage because they know the Russian people are shocked.

But the whole Russian attitude is insane. None of this would have happened if they didn’t invade.


3 posted on 04/18/2022 6:14:14 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: GonzoII

Their Navy seems to be over-rated just like the Army. As evidenced by them being in a current stalemate with a country 1/4 their population. (to be sure Western arms deliveries has something to do with that)

I was going to say they had her too close to land but on looking at a map she was closer to the center of the]at part of the Black Sea. I guess there is no safe distance in a relatively small water area with modern missiles.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2022/04/satellite-image-pinpoints-russian-cruiser-moskva-as-she-burned/#prettyPhoto/0/


4 posted on 04/18/2022 6:14:14 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8

Taking over is always harder than defending.


5 posted on 04/18/2022 6:16:35 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: GonzoII

This dude better have plans for a post Pooptin regime... Vlad’s not long for this world.


6 posted on 04/18/2022 6:16:39 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: GonzoII

Maybe if they didn’t attack Ukraine in the first place?


7 posted on 04/18/2022 6:17:14 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: Phoenix8
Their Navy seems to be over-rated just like the Army.

The russians are looking a lot like hussein's vaunted republican guard a few days after the start of Desert Storm.

8 posted on 04/18/2022 6:17:56 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: GonzoII

Seems we have people here who don’t believe this was sunk by the Ukrainians. I believe it was, but also that there is a enough misinformation out there to be understanding on how they would believe otherwise.


9 posted on 04/18/2022 6:18:41 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Sirius Lee

My feedback from reliable sources supports this. This is a complete disaster for Russia.


10 posted on 04/18/2022 6:20:25 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: GonzoII

Russia is looking right about now like the mythical kingdom of Lower Slobovia that Al Capp parodied in his cartoons back in the early ‘60s.


11 posted on 04/18/2022 6:24:32 AM PDT by OKSooner (Don't buy anything from China if there's any alternative available.)
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To: Phoenix8

To summarize the whole landscape of a ‘threat’...take whatever exists on paper, and multiply it by 50-percent, and you get the true threat situation.

Looking back at WW II...they only advanced against the Germans because they threw an enormous amount of manpower at the Germans, and Hitler was unprepared for the harsh winter. Beyond 1945....they were never on the same page as the US/NATO...never our equal.

If I were the Ukraine and wanted to really flip this...I’d take every single anti-ship missile possible, and try to sink the whole of the Black Sea fleet over the next ten days.


12 posted on 04/18/2022 6:25:32 AM PDT by pepsionice
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That would be a good approach if one wanted to start a nuclear war.


13 posted on 04/18/2022 6:27:57 AM PDT by anton
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To: Caipirabob
Seems we have people here who don’t believe this was sunk by the Ukrainians. I believe it was, but also that there is a enough misinformation out there to be understanding on how they would believe otherwise.

Who knows? Hell, it could have been the Ukes, the EU, the US, or rust that did it in. Mix a bit of aluminum with iron oxide and ignite. Fun stuff.

14 posted on 04/18/2022 6:31:05 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: anton
That would be a good approach if one wanted to start a nuclear war.

Given the state of things we've seen so far, are we even certain those birds could fly?

15 posted on 04/18/2022 6:32:58 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: GonzoII

With the Uks kicking their butts, it’s a good thing the Russkis never tried to take on America.


16 posted on 04/18/2022 6:33:19 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump. Let's Go Brandon! FJB!)
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To: PIF
" Moskva fire suppression systems:"

Interesting thread by this ChrisO. In the end it was cost-cutting to line pockets IMHO as he suggested could have been the case.

;0)

17 posted on 04/18/2022 6:34:39 AM PDT by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen )
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To: GonzoII

Nobody “LET” the Moskva be sunk. It was the result of the proper tool being applied to the job (sinking it) with the required efficiency and the failure of corrective attempts.


18 posted on 04/18/2022 6:36:07 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: pepsionice

I watched a video tracking the Ukrainian missile program. It’s brand new. Estimates are four missiles delivered. Two were test fired before the war. If they fired two at the ship that’s the whole lot.


19 posted on 04/18/2022 6:37:42 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Williams
But the whole Russian attitude is insane. None of this would have happened if they didn’t invade.

The Russian attitude is they are not invading, they are liberating...

20 posted on 04/18/2022 6:43:05 AM PDT by marktwain
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