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The U.S. needs to stay out of wars except for those that benefit America
American Thinker ^ | 04/12/2022 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 04/12/2022 7:19:13 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

War is one of the most consequential actions our government can take. The question is whether, looking back at America’s conflicts in the past hundred-plus years, we can discern lessons that should guide us going forward. David T. Pyne, a former U.S. Army combat arms and H.Q. staff officer with an M.A. in National Security has used his Substack account to write a concise essay analyzing which wars America should have avoided entirely and which were justified wars, whether conducted wisely or not. Trump understood much of this intuitively; Biden does not.

The post, entitled “How Modern Wars Have Harmed U.S. National Security,” begins with “Wars The U.S. Should Never Have Fought.” The first of those is the Spanish-American War in 1898. The justifications for entering that war were false (e.g., Spain did not sink the USS Maine), it turned America into a colonial imperialist, and it led to about 220,000 Filipino deaths in a war the U.S. eventually fought, not against the Spanish, but against the Filipino’s themselves. What Pyne doesn’t mention is that the media, especially the Hearst media empire, banged the drums, pushing America into the war.

I see echoes of the Spanish-American War in the disastrous decision to go into Iraq (false intelligence, a quagmire, and tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dead) and in the media’s current drum-banging for America to engage in a hot war in Ukraine against Russia.

Another disastrous, unnecessary war was America’s involvement in WWI. Without America riding to the rescue, the war would have had a different outcome that might have avoided most of the ills of the 20th century, including the successful Russian Revolution, Nazi Germany, and even Communist China. It was not America’s war and she had no business being there.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Military/Veterans; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: alternatereality; americannonthinker; andreawidburg; chechens; chechnya; historicalignorance; imaginaryworld; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; ukraine; war; zottherussiantrolls
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like the only war he would have wanted us to get into was WW2, but he thinks that wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t get involved in WW1. So essentially, he thinks we can just not get involved in any wars at all and somehow the world will be just peachy keen and not be subjugated under the thumb of others who would use their power ruthlessly against us as well in the end.

This type of thinking, in reality, would just lead to us having to fight the same enemies in many cases, but alone, without allies, and when those enemies are much stronger.


21 posted on 04/12/2022 8:05:52 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Alberta's Child

We went in and got him. I’m sure there were official apologies from the upper levels of Pakistani politics, uh huh, yeah right. They have their own deep state to deal with.


22 posted on 04/12/2022 8:15:49 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: SeekAndFind

I prefer the old days. Someone gives us reason to hit them (i.e. 911) then we go as conquerors. Go in do our business and get out. Let them pick up the pieces. No more “liberator” bull. They hit us again...repeat until they get the message.


23 posted on 04/12/2022 8:17:22 AM PDT by USAF1985 (Joe McCarthy is a hero...he was absolutely, 100% correct! (Let’s go Brandon!))
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To: Pollard
The U.S. needs to stay out of wars except for those that defend America

THAT!

This "Benefit" crap is what DemoKKKrats have been doing, and are projecting on everyone else including Foreigners.

24 posted on 04/12/2022 8:20:55 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
... the left tries to manage the lives of people here in the US, they also seek to manage the lives of people around the world whenever feasible. Notably, except for the Spanish-American and Gulf Wars, these actions were undertaken by Democrats, though the Bushes have at least an asterisk in that regard.

True.

25 posted on 04/12/2022 8:25:06 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Steely Tom

Excellent and Important Observations, all.


26 posted on 04/12/2022 8:28:09 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: FreedomPoster
We should have never entered the so-called “Nation Building” phase. There was no raw material with which to create a modern nation with elected government, and trying to do so was a fool’s errand.

THAT!

27 posted on 04/12/2022 8:30:07 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: USAF1985

RE: I prefer the old days. Someone gives us reason to hit them (i.e. 911) then we go as conquerors. Go in do our business and get out.

In the case of 911, we invaded Afghanistan and stayed for over 20 years and when we did get out, it was a total disaster.


28 posted on 04/12/2022 9:05:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: skeeter

</chuckle>


29 posted on 04/12/2022 9:09:48 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not sure why this exact same logic wouldn't apply to World War 2 as well...other than that we learned only after the war how truly horrible our enemies were. Shouldn't have supplied or supported the British, because it wasn't our fight. Shouldn't have embargoed the Japanese.

I personally believe the course we chose was the correct one. I just think that if you're going to argue isolationism, you need to be consistent.

30 posted on 04/12/2022 9:58:30 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: SeekAndFind

PAKISTAN’s ISI sheltered Osama Bin Laden......their premiere intelligence agency..... IIRC his compound where he was supposedly killed was within a short distance from their training academy in Abbottabad.


31 posted on 04/12/2022 10:07:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine were a waste of American blood fort no good reason.


32 posted on 04/12/2022 10:10:47 AM PDT by McGruff (A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes)
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To: McGruff

How in the Hades can Ukraine be included in your error ridden group of areas, when we are not in nor are we sending anybody to Ukraine?


33 posted on 04/12/2022 11:13:57 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Benefit”?? The ONLY wars we need to get into are ones of defense.


34 posted on 04/12/2022 11:30:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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