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Moscow Says All Foreign Leased Aircraft Will Remain in Russia (Nationalized by Putin)
US News ^ | 3/31/2022 | Reuters

Posted on 03/31/2022 5:50:18 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

All foreign leased aircraft still in Russia after the termination of Western leasing contracts have been entered into the Russian aircraft register and will remain in Russia, Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov said on Thursday.

The imposition of sanctions by Western powers in response to Russia's military campaign in Ukraine forced Western leasing firms to terminate leasing contracts with Russian airlines for more than 500 aircraft. More than 400 of these are still in Russia.

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To: PGR88

Yea, Russia can argue this for anything and have the moral high ground.


41 posted on 03/31/2022 6:49:52 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: jeffersondem

The west doesn’t make anything. I’m sure there are plenty of plants in friendly nations. Ahhh, globalization.


42 posted on 03/31/2022 6:50:59 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: delta7

This is definitely a possible outcome. The “West” is sleeping on this. Lost in the shuffle, India, China and many African countries abstained from the condemnation. The Middle East isn’t playing ball on oil production either. I don’t think the sanctions are as supported as the media would have you believe at first glance.


43 posted on 03/31/2022 6:56:32 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: Jonty30

Russia is able to manufacture their own, I think.
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I trained Aeroflot on Boeing equipment for three years. Boeing had the most to lose. They built two factories ( joint venture) in Russia to manufacture their specialized titanium parts as they had sourced their titanium from Russia. The fate of those two factories is unknown.

Boeing recently down played the situation, however they did state the parts ( titanium forgings) made would take two and a half years to three years to try and manufacture here in the states. Boeing’s B787 uses 60 tons of titanium, all of which was sourced from Russia. Boeing had to halt production of their 787 back in 2020 anyway, so time is on their side.

The biggest problem is Boeing aircraft is only 25 percent of Boeing. Their Missile and defense divisions make the most money, cruise missiles, missiles, rockets, etc…they are in a panic as they sourced 90 percent of their exotic metals from Russia…..and Vlad says again, Checkmate.

Senile Joe is an idiot, the only question is did he knowingly knee cap our aircraft, engine and defense industry or was it just plain stupidity to apply sanctions?


44 posted on 03/31/2022 7:04:54 PM PDT by delta7
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To: kiryandil

“You and I are on the wrong side of the Digital Curtain”.
No, you are not.


45 posted on 03/31/2022 7:11:04 PM PDT by exinnj
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To: delta7

Thank you for explaining your over the top exuberance for the Soviets. It makes sense now.

Why not return?


46 posted on 03/31/2022 7:15:16 PM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: marcusmaximus

Who would have thought that possession was still nine tenths of the law?


47 posted on 03/31/2022 7:21:04 PM PDT by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: Jonty30

Be careful.

They can easily lead to all-out nuclear war......

I’d say we are at a 50% chance now as things keep escalating.......not tomorrow, but in the next year if things keep up.


48 posted on 03/31/2022 7:21:40 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: delta7

A peek into Boeing.

https://www.defenseone.com/business/2022/03/boeing-poised-score-billions-bidens-pentagon-budget-request/363788/

Boeing is poised to make billions in space and defense contracts, however, they may lack the materials to make the product…Boeing is awful quiet.

“ The bad news is that Russia is a big supplier of titanium. That might become an issue for Boeing (ticker: BA) shares depending on how long the Russia-Ukraine conflict rages, how long sanctions are in place against Russia, and how long it takes other titanium suppliers to ramp up production.

Monday, The Wall Street Journal reported that while Boeing has suspended parts of its business in Russia, Boeing’s relationship with titanium supplier VSMPO AVISMA remains up in the air. Boeing didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment about its VSMPO relationship.

The stock may be taking a hit because of the fear about titanium. Boeing stock was down about 1.7% in premarket trading. Stock markets are set to open in the red though. S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures were down about 0.6% and 0.7%, respectively.”

On another note: Airbus has announced they WILL keep buying titanium from Russia, they have no choice. Russia supplies 90 percent of the world’s titanium…
.” Boeing Co (BA.N) said on Monday it had suspended buying titanium from Russia, while its European rival Airbus (AIR.PA) continues to use supplies from the nation that hosts the world’s largest supplier of the commodity, VSMPO-AVISMA (VSMO.MM).”

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/boeing-suspends-part-its-business-russia-wsj-2022-03-07/

South Africa supplies the next largest amounts. Do note, South Africa stated they will not sanction Russia and will also start dropping the USD in trade.

…..and Vlad says “ Checkmate “, again, and again.


49 posted on 03/31/2022 7:23:07 PM PDT by delta7
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To: exinnj

Tell that to the Canadian truckers, who live just north of us.


50 posted on 03/31/2022 7:32:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: datura

Thank you for explaining your over the top exuberance for the Soviets.
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Russia is no longer “ Soviet”. That said, I am embarrassed we have such brain dead, senile leadership.
Vlad is much like Trump, strong leaders. Having lived and worked in Moscow for three years training them ( non DOD), realize Vlad is loved by his citizens as much as Trump is. He does what he says.

Fact is, when senile Joe instated sanctions without a Congressional vote, he put the stake through our heart. Weaponizing the USD screwed us, it can not be undone. The idiot never realized Russia would sanction us back, crippling many of our industries, credit markets, financial institutions ( yes banks, they are losing billions), energy shortages, food shortages, dethroned the USD.


51 posted on 03/31/2022 7:37:57 PM PDT by delta7
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To: marcusmaximus

I saw an article about this a few weeks ago where it said the aircraft were likely to be written off anyway because the sanctions resulted in a break in the continuity and integrity of the service and maintenance records for the aircraft in Russia … which means they were basically worthless to any airline that would consider using them.


52 posted on 03/31/2022 7:38:32 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: marcusmaximus

If Hertz rents a car to a Mexican in Los Angeles, and he drives it into Mexico, Hertz would be wise to wait until the Mexican comes back to the Los Angeles before demanding the car be returned.


53 posted on 03/31/2022 7:43:01 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to recruit children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Gen.Blather

“This is going to make doing business with the West after this war is over impossible. Russia will be decades recovering from this disaster.”

Argentina manages to default on their foreign debt every 15 to 20 year, but the creditors come right back each time.

Same for Russia. But the bigger problem will be getting Russia to ever trust the West again.


54 posted on 03/31/2022 7:44:39 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to recruit children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Renfrew

“How long can they keep a Boeing or Airbus plane in the sky with no parts or maintenance from the company?”

Depends on how many they want to fly, versus how many they want to cannibalize. Plus, they can always get the parts they still may need (however unlikely) via China or India.


55 posted on 03/31/2022 7:46:15 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to recruit children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: ameribbean expat

“The German economy ministry is considering expropriation of Gazprom”

I suspect that Putin would be willing to PAY GERMANY to do something that dumb.


56 posted on 03/31/2022 7:47:45 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to recruit children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: datura

Again, Vlad says CHECKMATE. It is ironic under senile Joe, Russia and China are the only two nations in the world left to stop the socialist globalists. Trump was our last hope, he is gone. I am utterly embarrassed that Vlad outplayed the US, again.

Wake up America, you have been duped by a senile old man sitting in the White House. Nothing senile 10 percent Joe does is clean, pure or righteous.


57 posted on 03/31/2022 7:50:16 PM PDT by delta7
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To: jeffersondem

“I am doubtful the Russians are going to be able to keep the planes flying for long without western repairs and replacement parts.”

It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a way for the rightful owners to disable the avionics remotely.


58 posted on 03/31/2022 7:52:46 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: delta7

“South Africa supplies the next largest amounts. Do note, South Africa stated they will not sanction Russia and will also start dropping the USD in trade.

…..and Vlad says “ Checkmate “, again, and again.”

I remember that during the Cold War. While Jimmy Carter was busy trying to give every country he could over to the Soviets he was STOPPED COLD with South Africa - probably the country he wanted to overthrow even more than any other, because of their white government (remember, Carter was a Democrat).

His people told him that there were only 2 COUNTRIES in the entire world where Titanium (along with several other critical elements) existed, the Soviet Union and South Africa. Overthrow South Africa, and the Cold War quickly ends, with the Soviets winning. Carter, unlike today’s Democrats, took that advice, and that’s why South Africa’s government was able to last to the end of the Cold War.

Obviously Brandon hasn’t take that into account.


59 posted on 03/31/2022 8:01:27 PM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to recruit children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Renfrew

How long will aircraft manufacturers remain solvent when those anes lians default...?


60 posted on 03/31/2022 8:02:40 PM PDT by Jumper ( )
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