[Boogieman]

“The Ukraine is not a sovereign state. It does not have internationally recognized sovereign borders. It’s still part of Russia, has been since the 10th century.”

Jeez, you got this stuff hot off the presses from the Russian ministry of propaganda.

In the real world, however, Ukraine is definitely a sovereign state, recognized in fact by Russia, who signed a treaty guaranteeing the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine, a treaty that Russia has repeatedly violated, but one that it signed nonetheless.

[Paladin2]

This guy also says Australia is not a sovereign state, so there is that.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Then why won’t NATO let them in?

[PGR88]

In the real world, however, Ukraine is definitely a sovereign state, recognized in fact by Russia, who signed a treaty guaranteeing the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine,

Serbia, Iraq, Libya, and before them Yugoslavia, Czechoslavakia - all sovereign states, now dismembered.

Who gets to decide?