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To: Sacajaweau

As soon as the fighting started, that became a given.

At this point, we are the lead on the sanctions, behind organizing/rallying NATO, sending arms/cash and you better believe a massive amount of intel.

Our SIGINT, MASINT, HUMINT and IMINT is second to none. We can see things from space or air, pick shit up traveling the airwaves, Internet, phones... we have human sources across the world. NO ONE, comes even close to the intel collection capabilities we have: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Intelligence_Community

Not to take credit away from the Ukrainians, they ultimately have to do the fighting and bleeding (frankly, IMHO it was wrong of us to start this war even though it is to our benefit either way it goes), but the US armed, trained and feeds them intel. At this point, Mr. Z is “owned” by us.

(a good article that frames it concisely)
https://greatgameindia.com/secret-cia-program-ukraine/


35 posted on 03/26/2022 3:10:05 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Red6

I’m am sure MILLIONS oif Ukrainians are saying...give Putin the damn Donbass area.


37 posted on 03/26/2022 3:14:04 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Red6

The dirty little secret is that the Russians took out the majority of the Ukraine military infrastructure in the first two days.

All the rest has been mostly noise—and I agree that US Intel knew what was happening.


39 posted on 03/26/2022 3:16:33 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Red6

I actually think that when China and India said “no” last week then the Biden admin had to admit it was lost economically, diplomatically and militarily.


46 posted on 03/26/2022 4:33:27 PM PDT by ARW
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