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www.freerepublic.com ^ | impimp

Posted on 03/16/2022 12:35:25 PM PDT by impimp

Media and Biden are setting the table for an escalation in American involvement in the Ukraine-Russia war. This must not happen. America has no business getting involved in foreign wars that don’t involve our allies.

Without foreign involvement I see the following peace settlement happening - Russia will take Crimea, Ukraine will recognize Donbas independence, Ukraine will not join the EU or NATO, and then the war will be over. The only problem is that the idiot Zelensky is saying no to Russia’s reasonable demands. And these demands are reasonable. In fact, the Russian claim to Crimea, at a minimum should have been acknowledged 8 years ago after they had a referendum.

Putin was wrong to invade the Ukraine. But other than some short term sanctions as a disincentive to violence, the US needs to normalize its trade relationship with Russia. If the USA does not have normal trade relationships with Russia then that leaves China as the only nation with normal trade relations with most of the globe. This weakens America as it hurts our economy. And most importantly, we have no business getting involved in foreign wars.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: hielputler; hielputlerfanclub; pootinpuffer; putinisthemessiah; stickwiththeflubro; ukraine
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

LOL - All I know for certain is that almost or all of what I’ve been told to date is a lie. Maybe Putin and Zelenski are both lounging on some oligarch’s yacht sipping margueritas and laughing at us as the globalists drive us into some kind of frenzy with stock war footage and horror stories splashed across our screens. Or, maybe it’s all real.


21 posted on 03/16/2022 1:07:25 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: impimp
I do want Putin to stay as Russian leader…I actually believe he is a force for good there, relative to the alternative.

Arguing with the children is difficult, because they have difficulty thinking beyond their next meal or naptime.

Asking themselves "What if the successor to Evil Pooty is a True ravening monster?" doesn't get them their binky, or help them find their favorite blankie.  winking face

Excellent initial post, BTW.

22 posted on 03/16/2022 1:07:52 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: impimp
Media and Biden are setting the table

Wasn't Media Obama's daughter? Chacha and Media or something like that?

Biden can't set any tables, he can't FIND the table.
Sometimes they set the TV tray up for him but that's barely a table.

Putin was wrong to invade the Ukraine.

Was he? The Qtards say that Pooty is wiping out all the bad guys
and Nazis and deep state peddyfiles and devil worshippers.
And hey, who can't get behind that? Nothing can stop what is coming.

Or something.

23 posted on 03/16/2022 1:07:55 PM PDT by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: impimp

Putin, a force for good? ... for Russia? He is tight with his oligarchs, suppresses all free speech and dissent, destroyed the good will of the post Cold War era of Yeltsin, and controls the media. Now, he is sending Russian soldiers to their deaths till, as he told Macron, “I get what I want”. He is mentally unstable. Did you see his long table pics? He rattles the nuclear sabre. He has proven he is willing to kill vast numbers of innocent civilians.


24 posted on 03/16/2022 1:11:17 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: impimp
The three most important things to do related to Russia and Ukraine are:

1. Drill
2. Baby
3. Drill

25 posted on 03/16/2022 1:18:39 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: impimp

the whole thing is a Democrat trap

war in Ukraine is about as popular as the Lincoln Project among normals outside of the media bubble


26 posted on 03/16/2022 1:19:37 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: uscga77

“He’s testing his army and testing the West to see what we’ll do.”

According to some, his army has been decimated, his tanks destroyed, helicopters and fighters shot down. His economy is wrecked so it won’t be easy to buy new weaponry either. And he needs an army, his is about gone.

He won’t have anything left to fight with after this war.

Except nukes.


27 posted on 03/16/2022 1:22:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I believe Putin is somewhat Christian and that is enough for me (especially when I think of Stalin).


28 posted on 03/16/2022 1:22:52 PM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: SaxxonWoods

“According to some, his army has been decimated, his tanks destroyed, helicopters and fighters shot down. His economy is wrecked so it won’t be easy to buy new weaponry either. And he needs an army, his is about gone.”

This is laughable propaganda.

It is OK if you believe it.

It is dangerous if the politicians and US and European military believe it.


29 posted on 03/16/2022 1:24:09 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: impimp

How dare you post that!


30 posted on 03/16/2022 1:28:39 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: humblegunner

I only say that Putin was wrong to invade because he didn’t do enough media/propaganda to facilitate the invasion. Surprise attacks are always bad PR.


31 posted on 03/16/2022 1:29:11 PM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: BobL

Is that in your Greta voice?


32 posted on 03/16/2022 1:30:38 PM PDT by impimp ( )
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Stop believing the propaganda that is what all the news is now. Listen to Mr. Z carefully he’s begging for no fly zone (meaning foreign intervention)...that is the truth there...his country is turning into rubble...why do people elect fools? Biden case in point, how’s the gas prices.


33 posted on 03/16/2022 1:31:55 PM PDT by bte
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To: impimp

Are you one of those clowns who think WW3 would be bad for the planet? How dare you!


34 posted on 03/16/2022 1:32:46 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: impimp
None of Putin's initial demands were reasonable: he wanted a demilitarized puppet state over all of Ukraine, a Russian protectorate. The attack on Georgia and the seizure of Crimea were acts of aggressive war in Europe, the first since WWII and for which men were hanged at Nuremberg.

Ukraine will never agree to a protectorate. They may be forced to recognize the annexation of Crimea, but only in exchange for real improvements in Ukraine's security.

As for our trade with Russia, there's not much of anything we get from them that we couldn't get here if the US government stopped strangling the US economy and resource extraction. And a big chunk of the $300 billion in Russian assets seized should go to Ukraine to rebuild.

35 posted on 03/16/2022 1:35:30 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Codeflier

Lindsey Graham will be in the front lines.


36 posted on 03/16/2022 1:40:13 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I found hash brown patties! )
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To: impimp

Does Russian Orthodox have Confessions?


37 posted on 03/16/2022 1:43:04 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The Ukrainians are fighting for their country, the Russian scum are invading a country that took no military action against them.

If someone favors Putin over Zelensky, I know all I need to know about them, none of it good, they are not one whit better than the people who spoke well of Stalin in the 30’s and 40’s.

I’m not in favor of actually sending U.S. Troops, but to the degree we can kill Russians, degrade their economy, and send them back to the 12th century where they belong, good. I know the anti-Semites will bleat something about ‘Soros’ (the mating call of the anti-Semite) or that supposedly a country with a Jewish president is run by Nazis, or some crap about money laundering; these are the same people who would have been praising the Soviet collectivization and explaining that Lenin was a genius, as well as justifying the partition of Poland as a brilliant masterstroke.


38 posted on 03/16/2022 1:43:15 PM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: cgbg

Good point and another reason why Lintseed Graham is an idiot. The guy who replaces Putin might think that the Putin was too soft. Lenin (who was pure evil) was replaced by Stalin. Hell, even Lenin tried to warn the others in the inner circle about Stalin. Unfortunately, Stalin intercepted his message.
Putin’s #2 man (Sergei Choigu) is his best friend and part Russian and part Mongolian tribe (Tuven I think). This tribe’s ancestry traces back to Genghis Khan’s top General - Subutai.


39 posted on 03/16/2022 1:43:59 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You are a good comedian. The truth is it’s almost all over for Ukraine. I guess you believed the media and their COVID hysterics too?

It’s dangerous that many people in the West have been led to believe that the Russians are the Keystone Cops. Russia is a lethally dangerous military and we should seriously analyze them from that perspective. Otherwise, we could end up with a lot of dead American soldiers, and possibly citizens here at home too.


40 posted on 03/16/2022 1:44:53 PM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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