Posted on 03/09/2022 2:42:49 PM PST by marcusmaximus
According to the all-Ukrainian nationally representative survey conducted by Info Sapiens for the British Research Agency ORB International on March 3-4, 2022, 79% of Ukrainians are against the official recognition of the previously occupied areas of the Donbass region as part of Russia, 75% are against the official recognition of Crimea as part of Russia, and 56% are against the ban on Ukraine’s membership in NATO even if it ends the war.
88% have a positive attitude towards Volodymyr Zelensky – the President of Ukraine, and only 8% have a negative attitude. As for Viktor Yanukovych, the situation is quite opposite – 87% have a negative attitude towards him and only 6% have a positive attitude.
36% are positive about Petro Poroshenko, while 57% are negative about him. As for Yuriy Boyko, it’s 15% vs. 55%, respectively (19% state they do not know who it is). For Yevhen Murayev, it’s 10% vs 40% (42% do not know who it is).
67% are personally willing to put up armed resistance to stop the Russian occupation of Ukraine: in particular, 78% of men and 59% of women.
66% of Ukrainians believe that ordinary Russians are to blame for armed aggression, while 30% state they are not to blame.
Regarding the personal situation, 8% of Ukrainians left their home and moved to other settlements in Ukraine (we did not survey those who went abroad, but only 14 persons out of them were willing to be interviewed – probably most refugees did not respond due to a high cost of roaming).
The most common reasons why they did not leave: “it’s my home and I won’t leave it” (51%) and “I want to fight, defend” (22%).
34% of Ukrainians feel unsafe during the day and 50% – at night.
51% are worried about running out of food, and 39% are worried about running out of water.
Information on the research
The research sample includes 1024 respondents. The survey was conducted with a CATI method (computer-assisted telephone interviews) based on a random sample of mobile phone numbers. The sample is representative for the adult population (18+ years) of Ukraine by gender, age, settlement size, and residence region. The Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol were excluded from the study. In addition, in the Donetsk and Luhansk oblasts, the survey was conducted only in the territories controlled by Ukraine. Also, the survey does not cover Ukrainians who went abroad.
The maximum theoretical error does not exceed 3.1%. The survey was conducted on March 3-4, 2022.
The US had its own socialist revolution while conservatives slept.
The fight in Ukraine is between two factions of the left: a nationalist, neo-Stalinist Russia and a transnational corporatist progressive superstate in US/NATO.
The US is ruled by its own form of authoritarian socialism. We’re a long way from the relative freedom of the US of 25 years ago.
Now #25 in economic freedom:
https://www.heritage.org/index/ranking
Yes, by taking “your” living room and pool for mine, illustrates Russia taking Ukraine’s Crimea and Donbas.
Your living room and pool were not mine to take, as Ukraine’s Crimea and Donbas are not Russia’s to take.
The American revolution, what justifies us taking this place from the United Kingdom? I’m going along with the justification stated in the Declaration of Independence. But, for people like you, who disagree with the doctrine of self-determination, how do you think about it?
For that matter, who “owns” the Falkland Islands, or the western 80 percent of Guyana, or Finland? My guess is that you’re o.k. with endless wars until eventually something goes really wrong, and nukes are exchanged.
As for the Donbas Region and Crimea belonging to Ukraine, Joseph Stalin gave these places to Ukraine SSR (the Donbas in 1922, and Crimea in 1954). On what basis, might I ask, did Stalin own these places to give them to Ukraine?
Meaningless gesture, Moscow still called all the shots.
Please explain what you mean by “meaningless gesture.”
Maybe you mean that Stalin wanted to put enough Russians into Ukraine to facilitate the gradual Russification of Ukraine SSR. This is what most historians think.
But, this wasn’t meaningless. Stalin is responsible for the trouble Ukraine has been having almost since the collapse of the Soviet Union, because a large minority of its population is oriented to Russia.
During the parliamentary Ukrainian election of 2019, two the breakaway provinces and Crimea did not vote. And, the pro-Russia party only got 13 percent. The prime minister’s party won an outright majority, and altogether the pro-western parties won an overwhelming majority. It was “addition by subtraction.”
Well Stalin assumed the Soviet Union would last forever. The various SSRs had very little power, they were ruled directly from Moscow.
That is an excellent attempt to frame a situation to your perspective, as flawed as it is.
This is not a Declaration of Independence moment. It is not dealing with internal dynamics of populations and demographics (though the Russians are in Ukraine only through the starving of millions of Ukrainians and the illegal implanting of Russians into Ukraine during the Soviet era).
Crimea is a pure play of an external country simply illegally annexing the land for strategic value. The Russians are starved of great ports and especially southern ports for their navies.
Russians create they false pretexts to invade other countries. You’ve fallen for a deflection about nothing. The deflection is meant to distract from the fact that the Russians have invaded the entire country.
Weak-minded individuals fall for Russian propaganda and it’s nothing to be ashamed of, it’s just the reality.
It isn’t for you to decide which people have a right to self-determination, and which people don’t have a right to self-determination.
Neither is it up to Putin, Stalin, Lenin, or any Czar. Neither was it up to Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan or any of his successors, neither was it up to any Ottoman ruler, or Timur, or Alexander the Great, or Napoleon, or Hitler. I don’t care that any of them were conquerors. The right of conquest may have ruled in the past, but we are seeking to establish the rule of law.
The American view is the right of self-determination, and we will eventually establish this throughout the world. A hundred years ago, this view was hopelessly idealist and was. misused by the victorious powers of WWI to make a lot of mischief, setting the stage for a more awful war in mid century. Today, the response of the democratic countries of the world to the invasion of Ukraine reveals the right of self-determination to be within our grasp. And by the same argument that the people of Ukraine are the ones to determine their future, the people of the breakaway republics and of Crimea are the ones to determine theirs.
“It isn’t for you to decide which people have a right to self-determination”
Glad to see you supporting the right of self determination of Ukraine, after it was invaded by puzzy Putin.
yes!
And we Americans should remember that we were aided in our revolution by many heroes from other countries, among them Casimir Pulaski and Tadeusz Kościuszko of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (which included much of today’s Ukriane).
In times like this you can almost feel their presence.
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