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To: ransomnote

“Pentagon has warned that if Poland sends jets to Ukraine, it would mean that NATO is at war”

Whatta bunch of s**t.

Sending weapons is not the same as being in the war. This is just bullythug BS to keep any help out while the murderer commits his grisly crimes.

The Soviet Union sent fighters, SAMs, Radars, Kalashnikovs, trucks, tanks you name it to North Vietnam the entire time we fought there and Johnson even stopped bombing Haiphong so he wouldn’t accidentally hit Soviet ships.

This is cowardly crap. Let the Ukes have the airplanes. They’ll probably get knocked down but not before causing some serious hurt. Anything to throw a wrench in the Russian War machine.


19 posted on 03/09/2022 11:23:15 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator

NATO countries already done did send them thar NLAWS n JAVLIN things already yupp. We wuz at war a week ago, I think, according to the Pentagonal peopls.


21 posted on 03/09/2022 11:27:07 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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To: Regulator

“The Soviet Union sent fighters, SAMs, Radars, Kalashnikovs, trucks, tanks you name it to North Vietnam the entire time we fought there and Johnson even stopped bombing Haiphong so he wouldn’t accidentally hit Soviet ships.”

That was an act of war against the US. The US did not retaliate to avoid nuclear war or the loss of Berlin.

Eventually President Nixon tried to find out how far the Russians and Communist Chinese would go.

In WW1 the Germans were very upset by what they correctly believed were arms shipments to Great Britain by the US. An ocean liner was sunk by a U-boat after public warning by the Germans in British waters and many Americans died.


24 posted on 03/09/2022 11:44:30 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Regulator

Except there are no operational airbases in Ukraine at this point. The Russian MOD speaker stated that the country is flying sorties against them in going to be considered a participant of the conflict with all the consequences.


27 posted on 03/09/2022 11:53:31 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: Regulator; ransomnote
Sending weapons is not the same as being in the war. This is just bullythug BS to keep any help out while the murderer commits his grisly crimes.

Violating neutrality law would make the offender a party to the war and a legitimate target for Russia. A neutral nation loses the rights of neutrality when it arms a belligerent party to an armed conflict of an international nature (IAC).

HC XIII

Art. 6. The supply, in any manner, directly or indirectly, by a neutral Power to a belligerent Power, of war-ships, ammunition, or war material of any kind whatever, is forbidden.

https://lieber.westpoint.edu/neutrality-in-the-war-against-ukraine/

Obligations of Neutral States under Hague V and XIII

A neutral State is prohibited from allowing a belligerent party to use its territory as a base of military operations or for any other exercise of belligerent rights. Hague Convention V does not explicitly prohibit a neutral State from supplying a belligerent State with military equipment. Its Article 7 merely deals with the “export or transport, on behalf of one or other of the belligerents, of arms, munitions of war, or, in general of anything which can be of use to an army or fleet” by private actors, which a neutral State “is not called upon to prevent.” This surprising gap in Hague Convention V, however, does not imply a right of a neutral State to supply a belligerent party with such items. Therefore, Hague Convention V implicitly forbids the transfer of weapons and ammunition to a belligerent.

Poland is perfectly willing to give the planes, free of charge, to the United States and to let the United States carry out Blinken's initiation of expanding the war. All Poland did was call out Blinken's B.S. for what it was.

29 posted on 03/09/2022 11:57:22 AM PST by woodpusher
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“to the Ramstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America. “

That’s the issue. Poland isn’t sending them to Ukraine themselves, they’re putting the U.S. in the position of doing it. Poland could send them into Ukraine themselves, but then they know it puts a target directly on them .


31 posted on 03/09/2022 12:02:14 PM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: Regulator

So you’re saying it isn’t fair?


36 posted on 03/09/2022 1:20:49 PM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: Regulator
“Pentagon has warned that if Poland sends jets to Ukraine, it would mean that NATO is at war”

Whatta bunch of s**t.
Sending weapons is not the same as being in the war. This is just bullythug BS to keep any help out while the murderer commits his grisly crimes.
The Soviet Union sent fighters, SAMs, Radars, Kalashnikovs, trucks, tanks you name it to North Vietnam the entire time we fought there and Johnson even stopped bombing Haiphong so he wouldn’t accidentally hit Soviet ships.
This is cowardly crap. Let the Ukes have the airplanes. They’ll probably get knocked down but not before causing some serious hurt. Anything to throw a wrench in the Russian War machine.


In 2011 Putin ordered that Polish President Kaczynski's military jet be shot down near Smolensk in Russia. Kaczynski and other Polish dignitaries where there to honor Polish victims of the Katyn massacre in WWII. Eleven years later neither the wreckage of that military jet, nor its black boxes, have ever been returned to Poland since they prove the crime and an act of war against a NATO member. Poland is quite right to be cautious of NATO's resolve, and it well remembers how well Britain and France honored their commitments to Poland in 1939, and after.
41 posted on 03/09/2022 3:48:06 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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