Posted on 03/08/2022 10:37:56 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski
In the weeks leading up to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, those warning of the possible dangers of U.S. involvement were assured that such concerns were baseless. The prevailing line insisted that nobody in Washington is even considering let alone advocating that the U.S. become militarily involved in a conflict with Russia.
That the concern was based not on the belief that the U.S. would actively seek such a war, but rather on the oft-unintended consequences of being swamped with war propaganda and the high levels of tribalism, jingoism and emotionalism that accompany it, was ignored. It did not matter how many wars one could point to in history that began unintentionally, with unchecked, dangerous tensions spiraling out of control. Anyone warning of this obviously dangerous possibility was met with the “straw man” cliché: you are arguing against a position that literally nobody in D.C. is defending.
Less than a week into this war, that can no longer be said. One of the media's most beloved members of Congress, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL), on Friday explicitly and emphatically urged that the U.S. military be deployed to Ukraine to establish a “no-fly zone” — i.e., American soldiers would order Russia not to enter Ukrainian airspace and would directly attack any Russian jets or other military units which disobeyed. That would, by definition and design, immediately ensure that the two countries with by far the planet's largest nuclear stockpiles would be fighting one another, all over Ukraine.
Kinzinger's fantasy that Russia would instantly obey U.S. orders due to rational calculations is directly at odds with all the prevailing narratives about Putin having now become an irrational madman who has taken leave of his senses — not just metaphorically but medically — and is prepared to risk everything for conquest and legacy…
(Excerpt) Read more at greenwald.substack.com ...
Well, they might be, but they would still just be fulfilling God’s will, and it won’t serve their purposes, because the end of those events is this:
“So the house of Israel shall know that I am the Lord their God from that day and forward.” (Eze. 39:22)
There is ALWAYS more to the story than what we are being told.
Ukraine is no innocent, and neither is Russia. They are BOTH corrupt cesspools, and deserve each other. Let them fight it out, and the USA should see to it that the fighting does not spread outside Ukraine.
I agree
Amen
Supplying arms to Ukraine by any means is still supplying Ukraine. This is a dumb idea and is the same tactic that FDR used to get us into WWII.
Well done!
Indeed. Based on how the current administration deals with opposing views here in this country, it's obvious that they have no capacity to understand the views of foreign countries. But lacking the advantage of a media conglomerate that does most of the day to day heavy lifting, they are completely clueless as to how to deal with people who are not intimidated. The entire diplomatic infrastructure of the US are primarily spectators.
Not our fight, Amen and AMEN and amen.
#2:
Outstanding!!!
Warmongers will cry.
#9:
Excellent post. I agree 100%.
Seems we have Deep State WEF Useful Idiots right here on FR.
“Putin shill!” they bleat. Yeah, 2016 called, they want their hoax back.
They are on the side of Kinzinger, Klaus, Pelosi, Biden, Nuland, the CIA...and yet their bleat goes on.
“Baa! Baaa!”
“Did Uncle Klaus make Russia invade Ukraine? Or are you just a nutbag?”
Read this, carefully.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/ukraines-deadly-gamble
Then get back to us. Seriously.
(I assume you’re familiar with Lee Smith. If not, might want to be)
Eh. Add this “new” name calling keyboard commander to the loser list of russia apologists.
It is appalling. Lucky for him/her it is not his family or babies being slaughtered in the street indiscriminately, so he is free to remain foolish as hell.
“Along with many others.”
Well, that’s pretty much what I said with, “One of the many slanders from WWI.”
And that's the craziest thing: half the folks beatin' their war drums right now, spent the LAST FIVE YEARS talkin' about the "Russia/Trump hoax" being pushed by NYT, WaPo, FBI, CIA, DNC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc, etc, etc.
Suddenly, without a pause, NYT, WaPo, FBI, CIA, DNC, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc, etc, etc, are pushing "Russia/Ukraine" (INCLUDING BLAMING MR. TRUMP) and these people SEE - NO - CONNECTION.
And I thought Democrat voters were gullible...
whatever soy-boy.
I’ve never been to war. Been punched in the face, kicked in the gut, punched people in the face and kicked them in the gut, was a union and non union laborer for twenty years, froze my butt in the cold, burn it in the summer heat and had plenty of back problems from hard work.
I’m a mop jockey in a hospital ER now, ac in the summer, heat in the winter and pretty nurses to flirt with.
Wow - there are 77 replies on this thread, and I'm still not seeing a lot of explanations regarding which "U.S. vital interests" would be protected, by Joe Biden going to war with Russia...
Karen Goes to War!
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