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1 posted on 02/28/2022 2:28:19 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

A breath of fresh air. Someone willing to go against the deep state narrative playing out with identical messaging on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc.


2 posted on 02/28/2022 2:30:46 PM PST by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats, liberals)
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To: dynachrome

I disagree with Ron Paul on this.

NATO serves a better purpose than the UN. It is time we destroy the UN, and build NATO to include all true democracies as a way of fighting the authoritarian governments of the world.


3 posted on 02/28/2022 2:33:16 PM PST by beancounter13 (A Republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: dynachrome

“Nearly two decades after the end of both the Warsaw Pact and the Cold War”

He’s not paying attention. The Warsaw Pact and the Cold War never ended. They just took a break.


4 posted on 02/28/2022 2:33:31 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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A voice of reason.


9 posted on 02/28/2022 2:37:39 PM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: dynachrome
No international entanglements.

Why is it our media openly questions Putin’s sanity, but has taken any discussion of Biden’s mental status off the table?

11 posted on 02/28/2022 2:39:58 PM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: dynachrome
There was no advantage to the United States to expand and threaten to expand NATO to Russia’s doorstep

I don't agree. That may have been true if Russia were under a moderate leader. The annexation of Crimea and someone like Putin in charge of Russia meant Ukraine absolutely needed to be a part of NATO. What's happening in Ukraine is a demonstration of what happens when you are a neighbor of Russia, Russia claims you and you are *not* a part of NATO. The tanks roll in.

12 posted on 02/28/2022 2:41:08 PM PST by libh8er
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To: dynachrome

This is why NATO works
“Article 5

“The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of tArticle 5

“The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

hem, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.”

It basically makes war obsolete between separate states.
I fail to see why this is a bad thing. Civil wars are still allowed, as that seems to be what people want. But international wars would stop if every state accepted NATO Article 5.


18 posted on 02/28/2022 2:45:06 PM PST by rellic
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To: dynachrome
The Eastern European countries which begged for, and mostly received, admission into NATO had been under Soviet and Communist domination for decades (apart from the countries which had been part of Yugoslavia, who had just been under Communist rule, but not Soviet domination). They did not want that to return and hoped that NATO membership would protect them.

It's easy for Ron Paul, a citizen of a superpower, to dismiss the yearning of small countries to be free, independent, and ruled by the government of their own choice rather than one imposed on them from outside.

23 posted on 02/28/2022 2:52:13 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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I wish we had pulled out of NATO by the end of Trumps term. Would have saved us from having our pockets picked and wringing our hands over crap like today 🤪

Europe has the means to finance their own NATO they’re just too lazy and cheap


27 posted on 02/28/2022 2:55:19 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: dynachrome

It’s none of Russia’s business whether Ukraine joins NATO


39 posted on 02/28/2022 3:28:55 PM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: dynachrome
I've always thought extending NATO to countries that border on Russia is a mistake. The only exception the the Kaliningrad Oblast; sort of a wart on the Baltic Sea.

It didn't go well with Georgia and is not going well with Ukraine.

The member nations of the Three Seas Initiative could extend to a military alliance and possibly get Finland to join. Yes it borders on Russia in places, but is not NATO.

40 posted on 02/28/2022 3:50:37 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: dynachrome

Back when I was a big GWB guy, saving the Middle East for Raytheon, I bought the standard GOP line about this “kook”. Thank goodness, the common sense doesn’t fall far from the tree. Brother, I’d take Ron Paul as Secretary of State in a Rand Paul administration in a heartbeat.


42 posted on 02/28/2022 4:02:10 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: dynachrome

NATO is WOKE!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXY7_IlgIWM


47 posted on 02/28/2022 4:05:27 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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