Posted on 02/28/2022 5:55:43 AM PST by C210N
While most of us get ready to watch the fireworks on this day of “Independence”, we will either see or be wearing the American flag. Something has to be said about the flag we pledge allegiance to. While we all know of the flag pictured above, it has a meaning. It is known as a “Military Flag” or a “War Flag. It’s only to be used during times of war, or when the country is engaged in or is under military rule. Even if all the wars ended and all we had was the occupations left, this flag would still fly. This flag has been used since the Civil War. And has been the only flag that most people in this country has ever seen.
And this one here is known as the “Civil Flag” or the “Peace flag”. It is only to be used during times of peace, or when the country isn’t under any kind of military operations. The last time this flag was used was before the Civil War. Some have said that the idea of two flags for the United States of America is just a myth. But in fact every country has a “War” flag and a “Peace” flag. Thanks for taking a moment to check out the blog. I’ll let you enjoy the rest of your evening on this day of Independence
I only heard of Peace flags a few days ago. I'm interested in knowing if other FR folks can shed light on the topic, experiences, opinions.
Is the Peace Flag a real thing? Should the Peace flag be flown? When? Why?
I don't think I've ever seen one before, at least consciously aware of it.
I don’t buy into it. And that abomination on the right looks like it was painted by Andy Warhol.
I can’t find anything on this with just a quick search.
But, looking up 'american civil peace flag' on amazon brings up lots of options to buy one.
I'll note that, with a few exceptions, most of the flags are either the one depicted above or Fort Sumter flag, Live free or die flag. [for grins, there is one or two leftist entries]
Looks like it’s more of some kind of militia or “Sovereign Citizen” made thing, near as I can tell.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sovereign_Citizen_Flag.png
And this looks like a good link with more info:
https://www.michiganfreedejurestate.us/files/HISTORY_OF_THE_US_CIVIL_FLAG.pdf
The United States Civil Flag of Peacetime We the People of the United States, actually have two national flags, a military flag and a civil flag for peacetime. They have several important distinctions and meanings.
Just found that one, looks like a wealth of info there...
The War Flag of the United States is a rainbow flag - fly it at your embassies to antagonize other countries so that they make war with you.
The flag is defined in title 4 i beleive.
You had an extra d at the end in your link.
Interesting, but don’t know quite what to make of it - esp since it gets into some kind of a Jesuit conspiracy spiel.
Don’t know about y’all but I only have one flag with 13 stripes and 50 stars on a blue field. Full stop.
Through usage and custom, horizontal stripes had become adopted for use over military posts, and vertical stripes adopted for use over civilian establishments. The Civil Flag, intended for peacetime usage in custom house civilian settings, had vertical stripes with blue stars on a white field. By the Law of the Flag, this design denoted civil jurisdiction under the Constitution and common law as opposed to military jurisdiction under admiralty/military law.
Here is a good link, fixing the extra 'd':
https://www.michiganfreedejurestate.us/files/HISTORY_OF_THE_US_CIVIL_FLAG.pdf
It is my understanding that all civil courts today in the US operate under *Admiralty law*. But, I'm no lawyer, just play one occasionally on FR...
Okay, fair enough.
But, *should* the stripes be horizontal or vertical? Why?
Blue field implies to me water. Or, law of the sea. Or, Admiralty law.
The US being under Admiralty law is a sovcit fiction. Don’t peddle that here.
CC
There is no war or peace flag.
The so called peace flag actually refers to the Ensign of the Revenue Cutter Service.
It was flown from US Revenue Cutters and Customs Houses in the 18th and 19th Century to signify their lawful authority to collect customs duties.
It is the only distinctive Ensign flown by the United States. In all other cases US naval and merchant vessels fly the Stars and Stripes as their Ensign.
It is not longer user except as a second Ensign flown by US Coast Guard Cutters.
The Yacht Ensign is unofficial, and only used within US territorial waters.
Outside of customs houses, all US Government facilities have only ever flown the US Flag.
This compares to the United Kingdom that has a large number of distinctive Ensigns for the Royal Navy, government ships, merchant ships, etc.
No, they do not, “Admiralty Law” only applies to certain classes of civil cases involving ships at sea in international waters. It cannot apply to criminal case or civil cases on land.
Oh, I didn’t know that you were the gatekeeper of what can and can not be discussed here. ....bowing now...
This is intended as an education and edification thread.
No idea what a sovcit is.
Definition of peddle
intransitive verb
1 : to travel about with wares for sale broadly : sell peddling without a license
2 : to be busy with trifles : piddle
I think I get the concept, like the Japanese war flag in WWII.
My revulsion at the concept had more to do with the use of the word “peace” in the “Peace Flag” description, which smells like it was coined by Leftists, so I assume the characterization doe not run along the same lines as mine.
Only 30 stars on the “Peace Flag”.
How bout checking the Flag Code?
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title4/chapter1&edition=prelim
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