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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
I guess not having slaves any more must really ticks some folks off.

Go figure.

16 posted on 02/24/2022 7:06:50 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Spoken like a man who never thought deeply about the history of his own country. Lincoln famously said that he would preserve the union with slavery if he could. In other words he would’ve allowed slavery to continue if the south would simply return to the union peacefully. This is your hero, not mine.


28 posted on 02/24/2022 7:12:17 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin; freedomjusticeruleoflaw
I guess not having slaves any more must really ticks some folks off.

Victors write the history books.

37 posted on 02/24/2022 7:15:33 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I guess not having slaves any more must really ticks some folks off.

Here you go again, attempting to make the issue about slavery instead of a right to independence.

Look around you. Do you see how corrupt Washington DC is today? Do you see the kind of crap they keep trying to force down our throats?

I ponder solutions, and one of the most sane ones of which I can conceive is to let Liberals have that sewer government and let we States that no longer want to have their crap ideology forced on us escape from them.

You want to paint this about slavery in the same manner that Trudeau wants to paint the Truckers as "racists" and "Nazis".

It is a deliberate attempt to misdirect the point into an area where you believe the public supports you.

This is about escaping slavery, not promoting it or justifying it.

And I'm not the only one that thinks secession from this corrupt system might be a good idea.

57 posted on 02/24/2022 7:30:12 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“I guess not having slaves any more must really ticks some folks off.”

Slavery was the EXCUSE for our civil war, robbery was the motive.


80 posted on 02/24/2022 8:07:56 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Yet Lincoln doesn’t mention slavery even once in his April 15, 1861 war proclamation.

He said all through his war his goal was to “preserve the Union”.

“I appeal to all loyal citizens to favor, facilitate, and aid this effort to maintain the honor, the integrity, and the existence of our National Union and the perpetuity of popular government; and to redress its injurious insults, and injuries wrongs, already too long endured.”

His August 22, 1862 letter to Horace Greeley is even more explicit:

“As to the policy I “seem to be pursuing” as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.”


255 posted on 02/25/2022 9:07:53 PM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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