This issue is much more clearly illustrated when slavery cannot be used as a misdirection or an excuse to deny people their right to independence.
Ever since Hunter Biden left his career in natural gas and energy to become a world-famous artist, the world’s energy supply has been in disarray. We need him back, now!
I thought you might find this thread both amusing and thought provoking.
Interesting thought exercise.
Flagellating a deceased equine quadruped...
The vacuum left by US strength will be filled.
We were “bullies” that needed to back down.
Time for Europe’s beta cuck males to step up.
Now the world can reap it.
For one to conquer another is a psectaculr violation of the Charter to which they both subscribed.
Putin is just trying to establish buffers for Russia as protection from invasion why Russia is still strong enough to take them.
History tells us that sooner or later someone is going to invade Russia. Usually 2 or 3 times a century.
The SOVIET union broke apart long ago
Good one!!!
I catch flack for this but I don’t care anymore. Lincoln was a tyrant. He was well spoken and could write flowery poetic political speeches, but before the war began no one thought it was a war for union. Union became the battle cry when they need to find a reason to go to war with people they despised. Think about that for one second. Does it make any sense at all to go to war with people you despise so that you can bring them under the umbrella of your federal jurisdiction?
I'm guessing some here would have defender Britain's right to burn down D.C. in the War of 1812....
Lincoln didn’t invade the south. They shot first.
Ukraine. You dumb ass. I’ve been arguing for years that Russia was reasonable to annex Crimea, or support separatists in Luhansk and Donetsk. But Kiev?
Ukraine and Russia both left the Soviet Union peacefully 30 years ago thru mutual agreement, which Russia wholeheartedly agreed to at the time. Ukraine didn’t “secede” from Russia last night because they didn’t like the election results, and then fire on Ft. Sumter, leaving “Vladimir Lincoln” with no choice but to stop them. But nice try with the false Confederate analogy.
What was his Fort Sumtersk?
Ukraine is another story. Ranked in the top 5 for minerals, and food in the region,among other things, Ukraine is a treasure house the Russians need to bootstrap their economy. Watch as the 'sanctions' fail to rein in Putin. Western Europe is at the mercy of Russia to provide oil and gas for their economies since Biden literally destroyed our energy independence as a net exporter of oil and gas overnight, so they will stay out of it.
My biggest fear is Biden sending US troops in to show how tough he is, without UN sanction or assistance against a real world power, with real world nukes, who may not be afraid to use them.
Great Awakening over Great Reset.
In other words, Putin, Russia. Even Zelinsky, who is working under the covers *with* Putin.
The west currently is embodied with the likes of the bidEn crime family, with ties to Ukraine.
I believe that which is freely joined has the right to freely un-join, particularly for States of the United States. That said, I am not familiar enough with Ukraine to determine if that ‘original joining’ was indeed free or not.
In any case, this is not my dog, not my hunt. I suggest we send Cackles back in there for another try and see if she can think up something even more stupid than her last try.
Hard to say. If all Putin wants are these two regions and stops there, I don’t see too much danger. But if this turns into a total takeover, someone needs to step in. Another perspective is just see who the American media wants and go the other way. If Russia gets what they want and I don’t see how they won’t if it’s just them and Ukraine fighting, it would be nice if somehow they can expose Ukraine as the money laundering capitol of the world. Maybe something good can come from this.
Of course this is messy throughout history and in many cases today, depending on how far back you want to go with old claims and, even more explosively, new claims.
Where are you on Kosovo? Taiwan? How much do you base your perspective on values of liberty and rights? Desires of the populations involved? How small in scale and integrated in territory do you want to go? How great a majority need be involved? How much do you fall back on realpolitik? Possession being 9/10s of international law?