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PETER HITCHENS: Why I blame the arrogant West for the Ukraine crisis
Daily Mail ^ | Feb 23 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 02/22/2022 11:08:29 PM PST by RandFan

We have been utter fools.

We have treated Russia with amazing stupidity. Now we pay the price for that. We had the chance to make her an ally, friend and partner.

Instead we turned her into an enemy by insulting a great and proud country with greed, unearned superiority, cynicism, contempt and mistrust.

I have to endure, often several times a day, listening to people who are normally perfectly sensible and reasonable, raging wildly against Russia and Russians.

Once, I was just like them. I had the normal anti-Russian prejudice of so many Western people.

But, by great fortune, I am not like them now. I lived in Russia, I knew Russians as friends. I learned to distinguish between what was Russian and what was Communist.

And I saw something most people will never see – a pivotal event in history, when we could have changed the world for the better.

One of the most joyful moments of my life was the day Communism died in Moscow.

I could have sworn the sky was actually clearer and brighter, the people looked happy instead of downtrodden – even the revolting, corrupt traffic police, for once, went into hiding.

The litter bins were full of red-and-gold Communist Party membership cards, burning merrily in the late summer sunshine as they dissolved into grey ash.

So I drove my red Volvo through the liberated city, a lot faster than usual, proudly displaying the special yellow number plate (with its 'K' for 'Korrespondent' and its '001' for Britain, top nation) which had up until then simply made me a target for bribe-hunters and officious cops who prevented me from going on picnics in the missile-crammed woods outside the city.

I even found myself singing the hymns of my childhood......

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: crisis; europe; peterhitchens; russia; ukraine
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To: RandFan

I recall seeing over the years, again and again, strong communist marches in Moscow. What makes him say communism is dead in Russia?


21 posted on 02/23/2022 2:33:45 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: RandFan

Interesting and some good points but Russia is Russia and Putin is a paranoid psycho. Then on the other side is the raving lunatic Biden and a beyond worthless NATO.


22 posted on 02/23/2022 2:43:23 AM PST by rrrod (6)
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To: Moltke

I believe Putin has been successful in restoring the essence of communism - no competition and centralized control. The middle bosses don’t have to be afraid of falling revenue. They just have to do what the boss above says.

His innovation was that his new communism doesn’t require the Nomenklatura elite to hide or be ashamed of their wealth.

It’s effectively what communism was and it is also close to feudalism. Some people in the free world are supporting it because they believe they would be Counts and Barons under this new system and they believe they deserve that.


23 posted on 02/23/2022 2:45:13 AM PST by Krosan
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To: RandFan

Glad to know the author believes the-Russians-he-knows made the decision to invade Ukraine rather than Putin. He should travel to Moscow and enforce his democracy upon Putin rather than virtue signalling him from afar.


24 posted on 02/23/2022 2:49:42 AM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: RandFan

So, those clandestine polonium injections were actually vitamin shots?


25 posted on 02/23/2022 2:52:23 AM PST by fruser1
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To: RandFan
It is easy enough to find fault with the West's approach to Russia after the fall of communism, but just what should the West have done to tilt Russia toward becoming a modern, peaceful, democratic nation? Hitchens does not quite say because it is hard to see a Western policy or program of action that might have done the trick.

The reason we study history is that over the long haul, countries tend to repeat established patterns of thinking and behavior. Genuine discontinuities are rare.

Russia has a long and deep history of imperial foreign policy carried out by one man dominating the government in conjunction with the country's most wealthy. Putin and the oligarchs are odious and Russia today is dangerous to her neighbors, but so also was Russia during centuries under the Tsars and the boyar ruling class.

In addition, several generations of brutal communist rule deeply wounded Russia's moral character. Similarly, a family friend, a Cuban who stole a MiG and fled to Florida and later returned and snuck his family out, is pessimistic that he or even his sons will live long enough to see Cuba become a modern democracy because of the damage that the Castros and communism did.

26 posted on 02/23/2022 3:04:12 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: RandFan

He’s correct. Sure Russia is prickly and it doesn’t exactly conform to Democratic standards. Then again, does the US? Several European countries don’t to say nothing of the dictatorship in Canada.

Pushing Russia into China’s arms was THE single stupidest thing we could have possibly done. You’d almost have to be an Ivy League grad to think up a foreign policy that idiotic. The US Navy cannot exactly interdict Russian pipelines carrying oil and gas to China. All those natural resources combined with Chinese industrial capacity is a formidable combination.

The smart thing to do would be to reverse course with Russia. “But but but they took a couple pieces of land filled with Russians from Ukraine!” You say? WGAS? What difference does that make to us? None.


27 posted on 02/23/2022 3:09:30 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: RandFan

By the way, at 51 I’m old enough to remember the Cold Wat. Where the hell was all this Democrat hostility toward them when they were communist and were actually threatening us? Lefties were as soft as toilet paper to them back in the 80s. Now they go MILES out of their way to demonize, insult and antagonize them at every opportunity even though they have no global ambitions and are just concerned with their immediate neighborhood - and even though doing so runs directly against our national interest. Crazy.


28 posted on 02/23/2022 3:14:25 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: RandFan

Russia has always been set on having an empire, and Putin is a nationalist who wants to advance that dream. He’s a pan-Slavist who sees all the Slavic countries as essentially being bound into a union, dominated of course by Russia. This has been going on for centuries, even before Communism.

The big problem now is the involvement of the West, particularly the US, which is almost goading Russia to attack and making it impossible for them to step back. I honestly don’t know what Biden and Co. think they have to gain from this.


29 posted on 02/23/2022 3:21:18 AM PST by livius
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To: Krosan
Biden doesn’t have these commie “Black Panther” lunatics in high places.

I will argue on that: they are the SAME DAMN PEOPLE, sometimes even worse.

30 posted on 02/23/2022 3:29:22 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator

Maybe it is touch and go, but the known names are improvement.

What I see now is Michael Carpenter, a rather decent man, being put into a decision nexus and it used to be Valerie Jarret, who was a pure breed commie.

Biden has proposed some really troublesome figures into power, but it hasn’t been in the foreign policy space.


31 posted on 02/23/2022 3:52:04 AM PST by Krosan
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To: higgmeister

I have discovered the same thing.
Russians I have met have been friendly and far more conservative than the GOP-e.
Also highly intelligent and hard workers.


32 posted on 02/23/2022 4:58:31 AM PST by Zathras
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To: livius

I agree with you.

We should have made an agreement with the nations bordering Russia and Russia itself that if we tried to take over those nations, Russia would come to their aid, and if Russia tried to take them over, we (NATO) would come to their aid. That way there would have been a stand-off on the part of both Russia and NATO.

Instead, we broke our promises, always a bad move.

As to what is happening now... usually when we start saying one nation is going to attack another, we give evidence. This did not happen when the Biden administration started saying Russia was moving in on Ukraine.

This is crazy wag-the-dog theater.


33 posted on 02/23/2022 5:04:17 AM PST by Chicory
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To: RandFan
"Putin is literally Hitler! He's about to launch a blitzkrieg to recreate the USSR!

Just look at the map! It's Hitler all over again!

^^ Hysterical libs and neocons


34 posted on 02/23/2022 5:10:05 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

That map is what happens when you enslave entire nations and then lose the ColdWar.


35 posted on 02/23/2022 5:11:41 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: Travis McGee

You’ll like this article Travis. Peter was the Moscow correspondent for the Daily Express in the 80’s and 90’s..


36 posted on 02/23/2022 5:18:31 AM PST by RandFan
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To: rrrod

Putin was made in a Soviet mold, and he is the type, especially given his background, to have crushed the testicle of a Zek between the toe of his shoe and the concrete floor.

Just for sadistic fun.

People shouldn’t forget that, because leopards do not change their spots. But they do forget that or disregard it, even on this very forum.

But they better not forget that, because that is who Vladimir Putin is.


37 posted on 02/23/2022 5:21:51 AM PST by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: rbmillerjr

Yep that arrow should point the other direction.

If Ukraine falls to Russia, Putin’s tanks are on the border with Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland.

All those countries remember being under Soviet enslavement. Why should they allow Russian troops on their borders again?


38 posted on 02/23/2022 5:32:43 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: RandFan

Much of what he wrote is accurate, including the lost opportunity of an ally.

But what crisis?

The very definition of crisis may be expounded by one word: Inaction.

Our southern border fits that perfectly. If I had a choice, I’d prefer Putin over Xiden. Obviously, a fiction. But to the sane, the equivalent of Putin is Trump.

We should be so fortunate to see him leading once again; the alternatives right now are wholly devastating.


39 posted on 02/23/2022 6:15:38 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: RandFan

...and the neocons at FR.


40 posted on 02/23/2022 6:16:26 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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