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Japanese Internment: Why It Was a Good Idea--And the Lessons It Offers Today
History News Network ^ | 2019 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 02/19/2022 11:58:19 AM PST by Az Joe

For years, it has been my position that the threat of radical Islam implies an imperative to focus security measures on Muslims. If searching for rapists, one looks only at the male population. Similarly, if searching for Islamists (adherents of radical Islam), one looks at the Muslim population.

And so, I was encouraged by a just-released Cornell University opinion survey that finds nearly half the U.S. population agreeing with this proposition. Specifically, 44 percent of Americans believe that government authorities should direct special attention toward Muslims living in America, either by registering their whereabouts, profiling them, monitoring their mosques, or infiltrating their organizations.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: internment; japanese; wwii
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1 posted on 02/19/2022 11:58:19 AM PST by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

SORRY. INTERNMENT OF RESIDENT FOREIGN ALUENS OF A HOSTILE POWER IS SOP AND PRUDENT REGARDLESS OF THE ENEMY INVOLVED.

INTERNMENT OF AMERICAN CITIZENS BASED ON ETHNICITY OR RELIGION IS REPUGNANT, UNAMERICAN AND INDEFENSIBLE.


2 posted on 02/19/2022 12:07:08 PM PST by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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To: Az Joe

The US population has been somewhat interned for the past two years — to flatten the curve.


3 posted on 02/19/2022 12:09:11 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("If you see something, say something"? I see people dying from vaccines.)
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Idiot

“...unto the least of you...”


4 posted on 02/19/2022 12:09:24 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: ZULU

The U.S. does many things backward.


5 posted on 02/19/2022 12:13:36 PM PST by madison10
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To: ZULU

What would your alternative be given the same set of circumstances?


6 posted on 02/19/2022 12:15:10 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: ZULU

Thanks for telling us by using ALL CAPS that you think the Constitution is a suicide pact.
We don’t live in the past. And we don’t live in the future.
I am not sure your mind can comprehend the consequences of a blind adherence to the concepts you mention.
(John Walker Lindh a/k/a American Taliban sends his regards.)


7 posted on 02/19/2022 12:17:34 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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To: Honest Nigerian

German-Americans were interned in WWII, but not on a broad blanket ethnic basis. If you were affiliated with the German-American Bundt, American Nazi Party, or other organs of the Reich, you were definitely in for some scrutiny and possible internment for the duration.


8 posted on 02/19/2022 12:24:41 PM PST by quikstrike98
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To: Az Joe

There were definitely some Japanese-Americans spying for Japan. It was hard to figure our which ones. So they went with wide brush.


9 posted on 02/19/2022 12:30:57 PM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: quikstrike98

I believe there were Italian Americans interned as well.

Note that the sheer numbers of German and Italian ethnics would have made large-scale internment impossible. Ethnic Japanese were a small enough minority to be manageable.


10 posted on 02/19/2022 12:31:52 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: Az Joe
Some might suggest that the unvaccinated should be sent to “camps.” Heck it is already happening in Australia.

Funny... no word from the people about the modern day camps the same people whining about the mistreatment of the Japanese.

11 posted on 02/19/2022 12:34:25 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Az Joe

Magic: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence and the Evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast During Ww II
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/0960273611

Very interesting book on the subject with lot of source material included as scans. The book summary there is worth reading.

Short summary - we knew a LOT was going on, but didn’t want to reveal we’d broken their codes. So FDR made the call to inter everyone for the duration. It was not just the terrible call it has been made out to be, it was a very tough call.

BTW that link is hard to find with an Amazon search. The only way I can find it is by searching my order history. Make of that what you will.


12 posted on 02/19/2022 12:38:38 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: AZJeep

“There were definitely some Japanese-Americans spying for Japan. It was hard to figure our which ones. So they went with wide brush.”

I’ve read about a few cases of German spy rings operating here during the war, but have never read much about similar Japanese operations.

Are there any interesting ones folk know about?


13 posted on 02/19/2022 12:39:45 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: AZJeep

See my prior post. We KNEW a lot were - but how do you arrest just the ones you know about, without blowing the fact that you’d broken their codes?


14 posted on 02/19/2022 12:40:16 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Az Joe

I had an acquaintance who was in an internment camp as a child during the war. He was very bitter about what happened to his family as a result of their internment. Many Japanese Americans in Southern California lost their businesses and farms. My grandfather bought two Japanese businesses and gave them back to his Japanese friends at the end of the war.


15 posted on 02/19/2022 12:42:59 PM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Az Joe
F this guy.

Both my MIL and FIL were Japanese ancestry, born in the US.

Their families were forced to get rid of everything they couldn’t physically carry on a train, and were put into 1-room plywood barracks per family, with a single bare light bulb, and burlap sacks stuffed with straw for beds.

Many of the young men volunteered for combat duty out of camp, and were put into the 100/442nd regimental combat team - a segregated unit.

These young men became the most decorated unit in US military history, seeking to prove the love they had for their country and their willingness to die for it to prove their point. Their motto was “Go For Broke”. They were the ones who rescued the Texas Lost Battalion.

The families were given a one-way ticket and $20 after the war ended. Most of them had no home to go back to - others had ransacked their belongings. The US government razed their homes to the ground on Terminal Island near San Pedro.

Young men who had been attending USC prior to being thrown into an armed prison camp tried to get enrolled again. USC refused to let them continue their education, and also refused to send transcripts to other universities showing previously completed classes.

Finally, after many decades, USC is going to award posthumous honorary degrees to those they forsook - in early April of this year.

Japanese Americans were, and are now, some of the most patriotic people you will ever meet.

What happened to them in WWII must NEVER be repeated on American soil. Period.

16 posted on 02/19/2022 12:44:02 PM PST by politicket
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To: Renfrew

Go buy the book in my post just above yours.

There were a bunch of Japanese-heritage fisherman operating out of an island near LA and Long Beach harbors who were sending in intelligence, for one example.

The Japanese of that era were sending their kids back to Japan for primary education. So a lot of them were really more culturally Japanese than American. I want to take nothing away from the Nisei battalion or regiment that fought in the European Theater, who were very highly decorated, even as their families were often interned. But there were also those working for the Japanese. It was a tough call in an existential war.


17 posted on 02/19/2022 12:44:12 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Az Joe
I wasn't alive then, but the thought of imprisoning/interning citizens without due process is wrong, IMO.

Korematsu v. US wasn't exactly one of the Supreme Court's shining moments, either.

18 posted on 02/19/2022 12:44:50 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Az Joe
The real question is:

Why is Sulu using a Rapier and not a Katana?

19 posted on 02/19/2022 12:44:55 PM PST by real saxophonist (Confusion will be my epitaph)
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To: FreedomPoster

Try today’s Real Clear Politics History page


20 posted on 02/19/2022 12:46:59 PM PST by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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