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Leaked video shows Navy fighter jet crashing on carrier USS Carl Vinson
NY Post ^
| February 7, 2022
| y Yaron Steinbuch
Posted on 02/07/2022 10:38:16 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
"Carrier landings are hard."
— Talking Barbie
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posted on
02/07/2022 10:52:12 AM PST
by
Steely Tom
([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
To: BenLurkin
Yes... there is a reason they do not dominate auto racing, speed boat racing, and other endeavors involving high performance machinery.
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posted on
02/07/2022 10:53:47 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
To: DIRTYSECRET
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posted on
02/07/2022 10:54:40 AM PST
by
JonPreston
(Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
To: DIRTYSECRET
” Just wait until they start blowing games.”
Well, I gotta admit, that would bump the ratings.
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posted on
02/07/2022 10:55:07 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
To: BenLurkin
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posted on
02/07/2022 10:56:37 AM PST
by
PGR88
To: BenLurkin
The structural integrity of that airplane is something else. The major structure stayed intact through the whole crash...If the post crash picture of the plane floating is accurate.
The navy says it is.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:01:05 AM PST
by
pfflier
To: Seruzawa
Was it? The Navy had problems earlier with female pilots wrecking tomcats. Between 1970 and 1995, the year before the first female F-14 pilot joined the fleet, approximately 120 Tomcats were lost. So if none of those loses were due to female pilots then why were all those men wrecking Tomcats?
Source: Link
To: laplata
I keep seeing blips on twitter that the pilot had a reaction to the jab. Just bits and pieces here and there. Wouldn’t surprise me if it were just normal internet gossip or if it were the truth.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:03:54 AM PST
by
sarge83
To: DesertRhino
Yes... there is a reason they do not dominate auto racing, speed boat racing, and other endeavors involving high performance machinery.Interesting observation. If I were to guess, I would say mastery of high performance machines means you must be willing to push them just past the safe limit to find what those limits are and teach yourself to recover when you go past them.
I would wager that an overwhelming majority of women are unwilling to do that. So they're very good at repetitive, textbook situations, but anything outside the envelope and they're lost.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:04:53 AM PST
by
pierrem15
("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
To: Lower Deck
I just remember reading about how the Navy lowered the standards and that the first female pilots got away with mistakes that would have gotten a male pilot canned.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:04:58 AM PST
by
Seruzawa
("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
To: Seruzawa
I just remember reading about how the Navy lowered the standards and that the first female pilots got away with mistakes that would have gotten a male pilot canned. So what caused the earlier crashes if all those pilots were trained under supposedly higher standards?
To: Seruzawa
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:11:16 AM PST
by
gundog
( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
To: sarge83
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:11:17 AM PST
by
laplata
(")
To: Lower Deck
You have it backwards. There were males that crashed under those higher standards. And had males back then trained under today’s standards, there would have been FAR more of them dead.
Those crashes were IN SPITE of higher standards. Using today’s standards, lowered for diversity, it would have been abysmally more.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:20:16 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
To: pierrem15
Also despite TopGun and other movies, it is not sheer guts that matters, it is the mindset that deeply understand the machine and it’s envelope, and can execute procedures accurately and aggressively. Very few women function well under extreme stress, men do. Women function better in a methodical environment.
This is the reason men historically were CEOs and had a female secretary. Horses for courses.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:24:29 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
To: sarge83
I keep seeing blips on twitter that the pilot had a reaction to the jab. Just bits and pieces here and there. Wouldn’t surprise me if it were just normal internet gossip or if it were the truth. If they can't provide a source that can be verified, it's nothing but jackassin' at the expense of US military personnel.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:26:50 AM PST
by
Fury
To: DesertRhino
There were males that crashed under those higher standards. And had males back then trained under today’s standards, there would have been FAR more of them dead. Which I guess means that since 1996 U.S. Naval Aviation must have been a blood-bath what with all those women and lower standards and all. But I haven't seen any statistics supporting that. Do you have any?
To: Seruzawa
Maybe the pilot should have practiced with a cheaper airplane a few more times. You've read the Accident Investigation Report? The pilot? Aircrew and other military personnel that was topside that witnessed the crash?
No? So you're just making a bush league comment at the expense of US military personnel.
Unbelievable.
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posted on
02/07/2022 11:36:47 AM PST
by
Fury
To: Lower Deck; Seruzawa; pierrem15; DesertRhino
Seriously, regardless of what side you are on (though I am for wife/motherhood as the norm for women), those
stats showing the number of F-14 losses in the period from 1970 to 1999 are meaningless as regards this issue since not only are they not simply of carrier landings, but ignore the context, the number vs the rate, and other factors relative to the # of crashes. To argue for pilot capability on the basis of these one would conclude that pilot capability suddenly nosedives from 1975 thru 84, then vastly improved in 85, before again plummeting for 3 before years greatly improving.
However, factoring the # of crashes relative to the # of flights, the manner of missions (like Vietnam vs. peacetime vs. Iraq), environmental factors, age of planes and modifications etc. would explain most of it. Likewise any debate using stats must take in the above and more into consideration.
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posted on
02/07/2022 12:08:02 PM PST
by
daniel1212
( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
To: DesertRhino
That “mindset” thing is key and not everyone can do it. Having operated numerous kinds of high performance, powerful, machinery I call it wearing, or putting on the machine. Even when I climb into a backhoe there is a few seconds when my head shifts to wearing that machine, realizing that my every move is going to relocate something big. 100 or 1,000 horsepower in a pinky finger requires certain adjustment.
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