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I just tried Shell’s EV charging hub — and it's not the future I want
Toms Guide ^ | 30 Jan 2022 | Tom Pritchard

Posted on 01/30/2022 10:32:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

A gas station-style forecourt isn't necessarily the best option

I’ve always been of the opinion that you should bring EV chargers to the people, rather than asking people to come to the chargers. But admittedly charging hubs aren’t very common, and until very recently they were all too far away to experience first hand.

But at the tail end of last year, Shell opened up its first EV charging hub in Fulham, in West London. It’s still pretty out of the way for me, and the trip involves driving into the heart of the U.K.’s busiest city from nearby Reading. But it’s not so far that I couldn’t check this out for myself, just in case I’ve been totally wrong about EV charging this whole time.

And yes, for those that didn’t know, Shell the oil company is also in the EV charging business. So is BP, which is all really weird to think about.

According to Shell the Fulham hub uses 100% renewable energy, with on-site solar panels contributing around a quarter of its needs.

It was a very painless experience, only really hampered by the fact the price was so high. £0.49 ($0.66). I’m used to rapid chargers being more expensive, but Shell Recharge is the most expensive I’ve ever seen. Back home a rapid charger will cost me £0.30 to £0.35 ($0.40 to $0.47) per kWh, depending on which company’s chargers I’m using. It’s not just London-centric inflation, either, since that is an all-too real problem in the English capital.

According to ZapMap, which lists the vast majority of available chargers, nearby rapid chargers were charging no more than £0.39 ($0.52) per kWh.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: charge; dev; displacedemissions; electionvehicle; electricvehicle; ev; expensive; impractical; inconvenient
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To: Covenantor

you you have an old panel, consider a replacement anyway. My son is a Master Electrician. He regularly replaces Federal Pacific panels that are in recall.

https://safeandsoundelectric.com/2021/03/17/the-hazards-of-federal-pacific-electrical-panels/

Also, you can add an another panel to your service, for a garage, etc.

Not an issue...if your home is 20+ years old you probably need to replace the panel.

Also, walk around your house and place your hand on the outside of each plug outlet (wall) and on each switch outlet. If they are warm, replace them before the fire starts.


201 posted on 01/30/2022 5:46:45 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Great idea! And I’ve got a laser heat gun so that will be easy.


202 posted on 01/30/2022 5:48:22 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I do not buy Fords either. Or any UAW product.


203 posted on 01/30/2022 5:50:03 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Of course it’s a 4 day charge on 110v.

“Technically you can connect your Tesla to a standard 110v plug but it’s about as practical as refilling a gas car’s tank with an eye dropper.”


204 posted on 01/30/2022 5:53:32 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“Just checked GasBuddy and there are 27 gas stations within 3 miles of my house that I can access.”

Not believable.


205 posted on 01/30/2022 6:04:24 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: The Free Engineer

“You were supposed to ask how many miles per 20 Lb. sack of coal.”

Non Sequitur


206 posted on 01/30/2022 6:06:22 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator

I live in outer suburban Indiana and it shows 14 within 5 miles.


207 posted on 01/30/2022 6:08:08 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: nascarnation

“I live in outer suburban Indiana and it shows 14 within 5 miles.”

I live in outer suburban Florida and it shows 4 within 5 miles.

OTOH, I can charge batteries in my garage. Six EV charging stations within 5 miles.


208 posted on 01/30/2022 6:16:02 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Ok so how many live receptacles are there at a 150 unit apartment building


209 posted on 01/30/2022 6:16:57 PM PST by RWGinger (Does anyone else really )
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To: nascarnation

“Of course it’s a 4 day charge on 110v.”

99.9% of daily driving is short distance which only needs a top-off each night while the owner is sleeping.


210 posted on 01/30/2022 6:18:50 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: nascarnation

For an eight-hour overnight charge, this will enable traveling around 36 to 40 miles, which is great for people who drive less than 50 miles (80 km) a day. Most electric vehicle owners find that this meets their needs perfectly and allows them to conveniently charge their EV at home without any changes or upgrades.


211 posted on 01/30/2022 6:20:52 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: RWGinger

More every day.


212 posted on 01/30/2022 6:21:17 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: TexasGator

I get similar numbers in western suburbs of Des Moines, Iowa.


213 posted on 01/30/2022 6:21:49 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: CodeToad

Wow! 75 mpg! At 200 mph, no less!


214 posted on 01/30/2022 6:22:32 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: RWGinger

—”Ok so how many live receptacles are there at a 150 unit apartment building”

Might be helpful if they were near the car.

Just one per car.

Around here you can easily spend $100.00 per month for a parking space and $500.00 in Chicago and way more for inside.


215 posted on 01/30/2022 6:24:15 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: TexasGator
Not believable.

I don't give a flying turd what you believe, that's a fact!

216 posted on 01/30/2022 6:25:16 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: TexasGator

—”99.9% of daily driving is short distance which only needs a top-off each night while the owner is sleeping.”

A popular strategy is to do just that and top off as needed on a weekend at a fast-charger.


217 posted on 01/30/2022 6:28:14 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: jjotto

“I get similar numbers in western suburbs of Des Moines, Iowa.”

If the area includes Des Moines proper.


218 posted on 01/30/2022 6:32:29 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: jjotto

“I get similar numbers in western suburbs of Des Moines, Iowa.”

Des Moines has level 2 chargers in parking garages. No cost.


219 posted on 01/30/2022 6:37:26 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

“I don’t give a flying turd what you believe, that’s a fact!”

I struck a nerve!


220 posted on 01/30/2022 6:38:13 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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