Posted on 01/23/2022 5:21:38 AM PST by MtnClimber
This article presumes that the leftist plan is to make green energy work. However I believe the green energy plan is designed to fail in order to collapse our system. Then the lef will say “Well we tried to make the free market system work, but it looks like we need to rebuild our society based on government central planning and rationing.
And boy, we all know how well THAT works, don't we?
Starvation 'might' be useful to lose a few extra
pounds - but I don't want to lose all 194 of them.
Personally, I'd rather just fry up one less strip
of bacon to go with my two eggs & coffee.
That reminds me - it's time for breakfast...
There is no such a thing as a fossil fuel
7.81 cents per kw-hr RE
I do not know where this guy lives.
For me, I pay bout 17.81 per kwhr
FF is by far the economical choice
There was one clown here recently that didn’t bother to do the math and figured that we could use pumped storage for storing the amount of energy required.
I did the math, and we’d have to be willing to empty the Great Lakes to get the energy required to get through the worst-case scenarios.
...and then what gets done with all that water? If you send it down the Mississippi, and ignoring the flooding that would occur, you no longer have great lakes, so you have to start trying to refill them with rain and runoff. Not very smart and would likely take years. If you do what’s done by TVA, where they do have pumped storage, you need multiple lakes to move water back and forth...which is the case there. But where we do put a second set of Great Lakes - they’re pretty damn big as it is!
And no, I won’t talk about the hundreds of Hoover Dams required to power things at night or pump up the water during the day...
Peaches come get your peaches off the tree I planted in my yard only cost you 49¢ per pound, go to the evil polluting non green grocery store and it’ll cost you a buck49. What a deal and you are being green¿
Wake up America!
The cheap? renewable energy is just like the fresh peach.
When you have it it’s great but when don’t….
Until the greenies can sunshine or bottle wind I’ll take my electric power straight free market capitalism style delivered on demand without government interference.
We The People decide. Vote 2022.
We are currently on the Cesar Chavez model of the Venezuela system. The Socialists are ahead at this time.
“Ambri’s battery is 100% recyclable”
I was digging a bit into that too. Gets rather interesting as it presently cost FAR MORE to recycle and build a new battery, than to strip mine the raw materials and build a new battery.
So be careful with the word ‘recyclable’. The batteries have to be FULLY REBUILT to get back to a new state...it’s not just a matter of zapping them or something to get their life back. If there isn’t a cost effective way to ‘recycle’ a battery, they won’t be ‘recycled’ without coercion and huge added costs to society.
critical theory
My daughter & Son in law are building their retirement home in KFC* along with a casita for my wife & I in our dotage. The plan was complete solar until I argued for a backup, even in the Sonoran Desert, especially since there is no “grid” in KFC*. So now we are adding Propane and a couple of large generators.
I am also gonna try a couple of homemade windmill generators.
*KFC: Has nothing to do with chickens.
Green Energy needs 3 hours of battery storage to cover the start up time for backup generators. When the wind goes calm or clouds move in you need to to run your generator. Since it takes 3 hours to start, it has to run all the time without 3 hours of battery backup.
Being someone that has lived off-grid (solar), I cam tell you storage is and always has been the issue. Ignoring any environmental issues with the manufacturing of solar, storage alone is the dirtiest aspect of renewables. For accessible area applications there are now kinetic batteries that store energy in a spinning weight. These are not able to be scaled up due to material properties and basic physics. Funny thing is, the ideal storage medium for renewable energy appears to be the hydrocarbon. Of course, dirty evil carbon... therefore that cannot even be considered. So we rape the world and mine lithium instead.
The Ludington Pumped Storage Plant is a hydroelectric plant and reservoir in Ludington, Michigan. It was built between 1969 and 1973 at a cost of $315 million and is owned jointly by Consumers Energy and DTE Energy and operated by Consumers Energy. At the time of its construction, it was the largest pumped storage hydroelectric facility in the world.
It consists of a reservoir 110 feet (34 m) deep, 2.5 miles (4.0 km) long, and one mile (1.6 km) wide which holds 27 billion US gallons (100 Gl) or 82859 acre-feet of water. The 1.3-square-mile (3.4 km2) reservoir is located on the banks of Lake Michigan. Because impervious bedrock is more than 800 feet (240 m) below the reservoir, the builders had to line the reservoir with a layer of asphalt and clay to prevent water seeping into the ground.
The power plant consists of six reversible turbines that can each generate 312 megawatts of electricity for a total output of 1,872 megawatts. Water is delivered from the upper reservoir to the turbines by six penstocks each 1,100 feet (340 m) long that taper from 28 to 24 feet (8.5 to 7.3 m) in diameter.
At night, during low demand for electricity, the turbines run in reverse to pump water 363 feet (111 m) uphill from Lake Michigan into the reservoir. The plant takes advantage of the natural steep sand dune landform of eastern Lake Michigan. During periods of peak demand water is released to generate power. Electrical generation can begin within two minutes with peak electric output of 1872 MW achieved in under 30 minutes. Maximum water flow is over 33 million US gallons (120,000 m3) per minute.
This process was designed to level the load of nearby nuclear power plants on the grid. It also replaces the need to build natural gas peak power plants used only during high demand. The Ludington Pumped Storage plant is connected to six 345-kV Transmission lines, all owned and maintained by METC, a subsidiary of ITC Holdings.
The project was given the 1973 award for "Outstanding Civil Engineering Achievement" by the American Society of Civil Engineers.
Communists don’t care about solutions, they only care about destruction.
The Robert Moses Power Station in Niagara Falls uses the same principle, but the water flows into the reservoir from culverts above the falls so there is little need to pump the water, it is then released into the hydro generators during peak hours.. a marvelous piece of engineering, but how many Niagara Falls are there?
Show me a gov’t program that has worked.
War on poverty
War on drugs
War on crime
War on terrorism
All failures because they were not funded sufficiently.
The gov’t needs more money, more power and then they can fix everything.
The same will be true of Climate Change. Failure will be blamed on starting late due to delays by deniers. Failure will be blamed on lack of funding. Failure will be blamed on lack of gov’t authority.
They need fake crises like Global Warming so they can legislate their way to solve it. Same way they are pretending to solve Covid.
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