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I Idled in an Electric Car for 12 Hours in the Freezing Cold to See What Would Happen
Inside Hook ^ | 20 Jan 2022 | ALEX LAUER

Posted on 01/21/2022 1:10:37 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; Bob434
You can refill a gas tank.

Drag a 2 gauge extension cord a quarter mile long out to your bricked EV.

Or carry a 2 gallon gas can...

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I've been in places where you'd be dead with a bricked battery barge.

41 posted on 01/21/2022 1:41:31 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
How do ICE fare worse in freezing temperatures? Their thermal efficiency goes UP with the colder environmental temperature. Remember the Carnot efficiency: (Th - Tc)/Th. The lower the cold system temperature (Tc), the higher the efficiency.

It depends on how you measure "efficiency". You may be able to generate a greater brake specific horsepower in colder temperatures, but that does not translate to increased fuel economy during normal over the road operating conditions. Since cold air is more dense, there is a larger quantity of oxygen molecules being drawn through then engine at a give engine RPM. That requires additional fuel to be injected to achieve a stoichiometric fuel air ratio. That same dense air produces greater wind resistance as well. Also, in cold weather, engines typically spend a significantly greater percentage of their operating time below normal operating temperature which also increases fuel consumption due to friction loses from cold, thick oil as well as the extra fuel injected by the ECU to prevent misfires and heat the catalytic converters more quickly.

42 posted on 01/21/2022 1:41:44 PM PST by Sparticus (Primary the Tuesday group!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

When your battery gets cold it loses half of its available charge.


43 posted on 01/21/2022 1:41:45 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I think the joke was that every hybrid that ever caught fire was published on Free Republic. They burn hot and violently.


44 posted on 01/21/2022 1:42:14 PM PST by dangus
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To: DUMBGRUNT

That is not a Mustang.


45 posted on 01/21/2022 1:43:58 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I knew a guy who burned his snowmobile to make it through the night when he got stuck way out. He said it was a junker anyway.


46 posted on 01/21/2022 1:44:58 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: SuperLuminal

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha


47 posted on 01/21/2022 1:45:04 PM PST by rlmorel (Nothing can foster principles of freedom more effectively than the imposition of tyranny.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
I recently read the current figure is 80% buy another EV.

Funny stuff...I've got 2 vehicles, both over 20 years old, which are well maintained, run perfectly and look near new. And the EV people are already having to purchase new vehicles?

lol...

48 posted on 01/21/2022 1:45:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Why didn’t he sit outside for 24 hours and what do you do with a car that is 5-10 yrs old?


49 posted on 01/21/2022 1:45:24 PM PST by bray (The Vax is fake)
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To: Celerity
Just about all of the problems an EV have are outside the car.

The generation of power to the charger, increased emissions and supply issues at the generation and driving around on an electrical hazard.

I think about that every time I drive by that stand of pines on the curve that got toasted by the Tesla "people BBQ".

They didn't make it.

50 posted on 01/21/2022 1:46:48 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Nice test. Considering that batteries tend to have non linear behavior, I’d be interested in seening the charge run down even lower.


51 posted on 01/21/2022 1:46:52 PM PST by fruser1
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To: setter

So what is the source of heat when you “Idle” an electric car? A heating element?


52 posted on 01/21/2022 1:47:40 PM PST by gr8eman (When you're bought and paid for by commies...you're a commie!)
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To: Seruzawa

That was my first thought as well. I always thought that batteries neither charge nor discharge in a linear fashion, even if the load doesn’t change, but...that was just a gut impression. Never thought to check it out.


53 posted on 01/21/2022 1:48:40 PM PST by rlmorel (Nothing can foster principles of freedom more effectively than the imposition of tyranny.)
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To: throwthebumsout

“lithium mining is going to be the daggr”

Nearly all of not all EV companies are moving to solid state batteries by 2023-2025 that do not use lithium and are 100% recyclable and fast charging


54 posted on 01/21/2022 1:49:30 PM PST by setter
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To: dangus
Joke? Nah, we work hard to make sure those events get proper coverage. Here's one of the newest traced to a Tesla CHARGER (not the car itself)...

House fire on Hermosa Way in Menlo Park [CA] on Monday evening, by Linda Hubbard, January 4, 2022

55 posted on 01/21/2022 1:49:31 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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To: dragnet2

“And the EV people are already having to purchase new vehicles?

lol...”

EVs are bought for status not economy. There are some 500k mile Teslas out there on the roads.

I’m not an EV interested person myself but they are useful in urban areas. I’ve noticed everyone I know who has one also has an ICE car. Kind of like solar, you need a backup.


56 posted on 01/21/2022 1:49:40 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: gr8eman

EVs use heat pumps to heat and ac


57 posted on 01/21/2022 1:50:47 PM PST by setter
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To: rlmorel

The voltage usually remains high for a long while and then falls off rapidly. If you’ve ever run a battery down starting a car youd notice that the starter cranks pretty hard for quite a while and then quickly goes flat.


58 posted on 01/21/2022 1:52:18 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“precondition the car while it was still plugged into the wall, which is standard practice for EVs. Basically, you want to warm up the battery and the car interior while you’re drawing power from the electrical grid instead of the car’s own battery.”

Something they don’t like to talk about. Ev’s use power when they are just sitting at home. If you don’t keep them connected then the battery will drain and then freeze.

Not like with a Gas vehicle that can sit your drive way for a couple of months and just start right up and go. Not everyone has a garage to park their EV in either. It must be a ton of fun plowing or using your snow blower with EV extension cords running all over the place.

And this test takes place with a fully charged car with brand new batteries. Not very idealistic.

Age is not much a factor with Gas cars.


59 posted on 01/21/2022 1:53:29 PM PST by Revel
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To: SaxxonWoods
EVs are bought for status not economy.

Just goes to show ya stupid people spend lots of money to impress the neighbors. I'm just not impressed.☺

60 posted on 01/21/2022 1:53:56 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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