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1 posted on 01/12/2022 9:40:18 AM PST by Red Badger
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What’s the covid death rate for unvaccinated cancer patients?

What’s the covid infection rate for vaccinated vs unvaccinated cancer patients?


2 posted on 01/12/2022 9:44:41 AM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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Maybe, years down the Covid road, some brave MD will tell the world,”Recommending Covid Vaccines for cancer patients and any patient with weakened immune systems could have been a death sentence for those receiving the vaccinations.

“The study appears to support previous observations that patients with hematologic malignancies are at greater risk for severe outcomes from COVID-19. However, the number of patients in the study is too small to make definitive conclusions about specific types of anticancer therapies that might be associated with breakthrough infections, the researchers noted. Patients on a treatment regimen of corticosteroids also appeared to be more susceptible to hospitalization.

“Because measures of immunity are not routinely collected in clinical care, we don’t know whether these were patients who mounted effective immune responses after vaccination; a lot of emerging data have suggested that patients with cancer, especially blood cancers, don’t mount adequate protective antibody responses,” said Dr. Jeremy Warner, director of the CCC19 Research Coordinating Center, associate professor at Vanderbilt-Ingram Cancer Center and a senior author of the study. “It’s important to note that many of the same factors that we identified prior to the availability of vaccination — age, comorbidities, performance status, and progressing cancer — still seem to drive many of the bad outcomes.”

For more on this research, see 13% Mortality Rate in Fully Vaccinated Patients With Cancer Who Had Breakthrough COVID-19.”


3 posted on 01/12/2022 9:45:48 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Nietzsche: “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything the State has. It was stolen!”)
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My son had the J&J. He's in Virginia and very isolated except for his appts at the Cancer center. We just keep praying.

My granddaughter is at Brown...PHD in Pharmacology and Physiology. 6 months to go!!

4 posted on 01/12/2022 9:45:57 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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all covid cases are breakthrough cases. There is no real vaccine.


5 posted on 01/12/2022 9:50:58 AM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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Cancer is a really broad category. Moreover, even with true vaccines for other diseases, results may not be comparable because the immune system is so compromised. How can we group someone with early stage prostate cancer with someone with advanced pancreatic cancer, or any cancer that has metastasized?

I am all for exposing the problems with these Covid shots, but I don’t find this particular statistic to be useful.

Occasional Disclaimer: Dr. Sivana is not a medical doctor. He is a fictitious comic book doctor of the “Mad Scientist” category.


6 posted on 01/12/2022 9:55:22 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("There are only men and women."-- George Gilder, Sexual Suicide, 1973)
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Need to know what stages of cancer, or the differing %’s of death for different stages. For instance, It might be that stage one only had a 1%machine of death, while stage 4 had 30%


8 posted on 01/12/2022 10:18:26 AM PST by Bob434
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Wait…what?
This was their trial group size?
54 vaccinated patients, half with Lymphophemia?

Caused by the vaccine?

“The consortium identified 1,787 patients with cancer and COVID-19 for the study, the vast majority of which were unvaccinated. The number of fully vaccinated was 54, and 46% of those fully vaccinated had reduced levels of lymphocytes — the T cells and B cells responsible for immunological responses to viruses. Lymphopenia commonly occurs in patients with cancer receiving anti-CD20 monoclonal antibodies or CAR-T-cell treatments for hematologic malignancies, including lymphoma and leukemia.”

Lots of hemming hawing and equivocation in this study…which is being used to drive booster shots ( which other studies are showing to progressively degrade innate immunity) into immuno- compromised people!
To give them what…at best another 8-10 weeks of artificially stimulated selective antibodies and overall inferior immune systems?


11 posted on 01/12/2022 11:30:32 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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