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Personally I think this is earth shattering.

See the full 20 page report here https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/global/Documents/Consumer-Business/us-2022-global-automotive-consumer-study-global-focus-final.pdf

1 posted on 01/08/2022 12:48:38 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/global/Documents/Consumer-Business/us-2022-global-automotive-consumer-study-global-focus-final.pdf


2 posted on 01/08/2022 12:51:27 PM PST by Paladin2
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Dumb libtards will take up the slack 🤪


3 posted on 01/08/2022 12:51:33 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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Forcing technology on us that is not ready for prime time....


4 posted on 01/08/2022 12:52:19 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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If the comparison is China or South Korea, then ‘yes’ the EV is attractive as an alternative to a motorscooter. Here in the US they are proposing electric pickup trucks for 80 - 90K. Can’t imagine financing that.


5 posted on 01/08/2022 12:52:26 PM PST by Tallguy
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In IT these H-1B whores are known as Toilette and Douche.


6 posted on 01/08/2022 12:53:04 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Mercedes has a commercial that says the future is wonderful with an electric car and absolutely no other traffic but you 🤪


7 posted on 01/08/2022 12:53:17 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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Take away the TAX PAYER FUNDED incentives to learn the true market interest.

Also, ensure the EV owners are responsible for funding all of the CHARGING STATIONS.

10 posted on 01/08/2022 12:56:00 PM PST by G Larry (The "Racism" charge is code for "No Intelligent Argument")
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We have two vehicles. A 2001 F150 4x4 and a 2005 Ford Focus. Paid a few grand for each. Will I be able to buy a used EV for a few grand?


13 posted on 01/08/2022 12:57:09 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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Electric cars have their uses, but mandating them for everything is like using a square peg in a round hole.

remember when they banned incandescent bulbs and mandated the horrible mercury laden florescent tubes ?

Even if they had not we would be using Led bulbs today, and it created a toxic nightmare. fortunately Trump rescinded the ban on incandescent bulbs as the led ones dont work with my lava lamps or keep the chickens warm


14 posted on 01/08/2022 12:57:39 PM PST by algore
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“only about five percent of Americans expect their next vehicle will be a fully-electric, battery-fueled machine.”

That’s pretty astounding considering that some companies like GM are essentially going “all in” on EVs. Imagine betting the farm on a product that only 1 out of 20 buyers seems genuinely interested in. Now, the people at GM would probably tell you that they expect consumers to come around to the idea on things really take off, and maybe that’s true to some extent, but can you really expand 5% to 70-80% that quickly? I’m skeptical


18 posted on 01/08/2022 1:00:30 PM PST by irishjuggler
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🙋🏻‍♂️⚡️ 🚘

EV demand far exceeds supply.


26 posted on 01/08/2022 1:10:55 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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Biden caused lithium prices to rise seven-fold since his election:
https://www.dailymetalprice.com/metalpricecharts.php?c=li&u=lb&d=0

The Biden seven-fold lithium price rise impacts electric vehicle buyers world-wide, not just in the USA.

Rechargeable power tools with lithium batteries have shot up in price.


29 posted on 01/08/2022 1:12:11 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Electric cars work and depreciate correctly in edge situations much like a Smart Car or well cared for 1973 VW Bug. Under ideal circamstances we are talking 10 to 30 cents a mile to 120k miles.

Unless the owner also owns a solar pannel array of 700 square feet it also is not really a game changer for anyone economically vs a very light city car as seen in India were crash worthyness is not a factor.

Base model Current EV Sweet Spot ($3000 / year)
50 miles or less a day, in a climate without many weather events that need a heater to keep the battery or the occupants warm for 8-24 hours while road crews catch up.

Base model Current EV Political or Personal Statement Sweet Spot ($6000 - 12000 / year)
150 miles or less a day, in a climate without many weather events that need a heater to keep the battery or the occupants warm for 8-24 hours while road crews catch up.

You can get the same net energy savings from a 40mph max speed cart using a low end motorcycle engine like a Tata Nano with about 10% of the sunk cost of gaining the utility.
The Model S at the proper deprecation rate is just a 4 seat nicer form of the Tata Nano utility. The Nano just admits it is a car for one person to go 25 miles a day and tossed after 3-9 years. A Model S driven 25 miles a day depreciates correctly for a 12 year life, drive it 100 miles a day, 20k miles per year, and at 6 years it worth is only the recyclable value. A 120k mile ford F150 at 6 years old is currently worth a third to half of its sticker, an 120k electric car is a source for parts other than a battery.


30 posted on 01/08/2022 1:13:53 PM PST by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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Most people have been saying for years that they like modern ICE cars and trucks.

And that electric is a step down in capability and cost/benefit.

And they only way they are going to change is if they are forced to do so.

That makes for very, very bad politics.

And trillions of dollars in lost opportunity. Trillions.

Pull all electric car subsidies now. Let the market decide their fate.


35 posted on 01/08/2022 1:17:26 PM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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Sure “everybody” 70+k


37 posted on 01/08/2022 1:17:57 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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I’ve purchased my last two cars from the same salesman. I’ve told him that if all he can offer is electric vehicle. He told me that most of his customers have told him the same thing.

BTW, I keep getting surveys from GM on what I want in my next vehicle. The second question defines an electric vehicle and then starts asking me if I would consider a vehicle as defined. My choices are from 10 (I really want one) to 1 (no way in Hell). When I answer that No, I do not in any circumstances would I buy an electric vehicle, the survey thanks me and tells me that I don’t fit the profile for the survey.


38 posted on 01/08/2022 1:18:51 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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. In South Korea, for example, 23 percent of buyers anticipate next buying an electric. In China it's 17 percent.

In Norway, the market share for Electric Vehicles is ALREADY a massive 80% of all cars sold. Top EV seller in Norway is of course Tesla, where Musk is pretty popular.

40 posted on 01/08/2022 1:19:04 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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45 posted on 01/08/2022 1:22:28 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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EV owners own fossil fuel cars also. When you use power that is intermittent you better have a backup.


46 posted on 01/08/2022 1:22:32 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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They can’t keep semiconductor factories going in China, and the supply chains are crumbling around the world. Forget electric cars, we may have a problem building new IC vehicles in the near future.


70 posted on 01/08/2022 1:49:52 PM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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